So, the TV news channels are showing some beardy steel guy blaming Brexit for the Steel decline due to the 'uncertainty' - from the extract below from a report in Jan 2018 it shows that without the current cheaper £ that the industry has enjoyed over the last 3 years they would have clearly been doomed a year or so ago yet more unprofessional biased reporting by cry baby fluffies wow they should be embarrassed "Prospects for the UK steel industry The recent fall in international demand for steel, combined with continuing growth in production has created a glut of steel on the international market. This has pushed steel prices down, magnifying the comparative expense of steel produced in the UK, where overheads are higher than in some other countries. Some analysts have questioned the economic viability of the UK steel industry, but the Prime Minister has stated that the Government is committed to supporting this industry, which she describes as “vital”"
If a business since 2005, has struggled every year since 2005, has been sold by every owner and there have been many with the last sale being for £1, then that company when it starts relying on hundreds of millions of tax payers money is only putting off the inevitable end. You ignored the production costs, cheap labour, cheap energy costs and state control. No point in it's future can it compete with that. We have and are moving towards leaders of tech and advanced tech, old manual heavy services, no where in the west can compete with china. China has sold more steel in the last two years, than the U.K. has in the last 110 years. Time to move on from the old heavy industries or insist any government contract must use British steel and then justify to the taxpayer why we are paying 5 times the cost of any project for steel, just to keep it going? If you take that approach though, where does the line stop on who do you assist?
Is this putting in a plea for a socialist independent Scotland? That’s odd. I hadn’t figured out that you were in favour of that.
I couldn’t help wondering how many of the steel workers decrying the Brexit uncertainty that they said was scuppering their jobs had in fact voted for Brexit. Most of them, I imagine, as it’s a bit of a Brexit hotspot, that part of the world. Still, they’ll just be one of the bumps in the road. There’s bound to be bumps. You can’t make an omelette, blah blah...
Surely, throwing a pint of beer over Farage would have been more apt. I don’t think the milkshake thrower should have done it. A waste of a perfectly good milkshake.
Why? seriously your judgement is not so clouded as to suggest this is due to Brexit, I know you ain’t that daft
Surely. So why do they pretend it is? Mind you, when Nissan up-sticks from Teeside, another Brexit area, I wonder if everyone will say that it’s nothing to do with Brexit either. Maybe Brexit will have no negative consequences for anyone.
The amazing luminescent Glid, there you go again with your silliness, sniggering as you type your tripe Still loves ya baby
Good programme on Arte tonight. For Loz and Noobs, Arte is a left-leaning socialist propaganda MSM TV channel that belongs to France and Germany and is state sponsored. Anyway, tonight’s programme was about anti-EU sentiment in Poland, Hungary and Bulgaria. The Poles, net beneficiaries of EU money to the tune of €10 bn a year, were bleating about how unfair the EU was and how they could do so much better on their own. The Hungarians, also net beneficiaries, were saying the same thing and they were particularly exercised about immigration, no matter that barely any immigrants wanted to stay in the unwelcoming place. They were swamped with 700 people applying for asylum last year. So their Euro election is all about immigration. In Bulgaria they just steal the EU money, corruption is so rife. The EU money doesn’t have to be accounted for in any case. Factor in Le Pen’s Gilet Jaunes and Renzi’s Italian malcontents and you essentially have a Europe where every country can do everything better themselves, all problems are the fault of the EU and the EU will likely collapse. But I reckon they won’t all be striking massively beneficial trade deals with India and making billions. I suspect that Russia will step in to fill the EU vacuum and they’ll all become vassal Russian states again. All the nationalist parties love the kleptocratic Putin. The Austrians have been cosying up to him in a big way. So it seems that what is good for Britain, a no-deal Brexit, will be good for everyone else too. The zloty and the drachma will reappear, there will be no more Romanian fruit pickers or Polish plumbers ruining anyone’s lives and all countries in Europe will be able to go back to having bendy bananas. Should be great, a bit like 1965 but perhaps without the Stasi. You have to assume that Germany will remain united in their own mini EU with Luxembourg. Farage, Trump, Putin and Xi are going to be partying like there’s no tomorrow.
Point of order, Glidd. There is no such thing as a non-German net beneficiary of EU membership. Carry on : o )
He shouldn’t have, but I cannot agree that Banana and Salted Caramel flavour is a ‘perfectly good milkshake’: far too hipster millennial!
Because of masochistic tendencies on my part (I'm in this thread on a regular basis, so you know what I mean), I tuned into a good chunk of MayBot's press conference yesterday. Missed the first few minutes and saw it to the end. I have never seen anything like this. I'm not kidding, it was fucking weird. I have never seen a UK PM in such a mental state. I have never seen such a reaction from an assembled MSM, at a PM press conference. I was actually disturbed by the whole thing. I'm genuinely expecting now that May will go full Caligula on us (never go full Caligula). It was like watching the eighth and final season of Game of Thrones - you know the characters, you have a vague idea where it is going with the plot but it was like fifty percent of the content was missing. Have you ever stood outside whilst a total solar eclipse is going on? The atmosphere is weird, sounds are muted, the light is indescribably different. I can understand why Early Man was so freaked by them. The PM's press conference was like experiencing a total solar eclipse.
Because if you stopped looking at the headlines of the remaining press who blame even a cat farting on brexit's fault, you will see that the chinese have produced more steel in the last two years than the british steel industry has since it began. Very few companies can compete against that chinese output, let alone one that is so in trouble, it was last sold for a £1
Probably won't surprise most who see the many faces of wellness labour charity workers https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/charity-worker-who-said-nigel-16179264
