British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. A certain amount of arse action is to be expected from senior politicians, at all times. They all lie, they all manipulate. This goes with the territory. I am talking about something else.

    We witnessed a PM yesterday who looked like a mental patient in the throes of a fugue state. She looked entirely unplugged and we witnessed representatives of the MSM witnessing it. To me, it looked like the MSM reps would have preferred to be anywhere but in that room and it took an appreciable amount of time for them to shift gears and grope for (what they considered to be) relevant questions. There was an atmosphere of palpable shock in that room.

    This is new. The PM didn't appear to be simply bullshitting us, in the normal way. She looked like she was hallucinating.
     
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  2. Blood/ sugar levels ?
     
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  3. Question for you: should the EU or Britain protect British Steel jobs with tariffs on cheap Chinese imports or should Scunthorpe just close down and the area be put out of work?
     
  4. May’s or @Loz’s?
     
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  5. May's a vampire and Loz is well , just sweet ..
     
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  6. By all accounts British Steel mainly produce specialised steel of which China makes very little of, I would either help them financially or take them over on a short term basis, keeping the jobs for a number of years to see if things improve, Brexit or not.
     
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  7. Seems like a good idea. So it’s not the fault of the Chinese then. So whose fault is it?
     
  8. Who knows, perhaps not so much demand for the specialised steel they produce, most of the EU is facing a slow down close to recession.
     
  9. i dont know the situation in rUK . it was our gov that saved the industry up here several years back.(and by extension us ordinary folk) and yip, its more a specialised steel they make. the fact that it aint being reported as shit 24/7 i can only assume its going ok.
     
  10. You've clearly never met the man..... think despair squid from red dwarf...
     
  11. As you haven't answered mine, I'll try and re insert it again and answer yours.

    I believe, happy to be corrected, that tariffs on chinese steel for european markets is decided by the eu and not the u.k. seperately. The U.S. has a substantially higher tariff on chinese steel so perhaps your question should be aimed at the eu why they have not done the same?

    The steel works is like our coal works, not in our future. There is no future in a trade where the largest supplier in the world produces in 2 years, what the U.K. has not produced in over 100 years.

    All of this faux outrage rather shows on some. How many were outraged when tens of thousands of posties lost there jobs because of texts, emails, video conferencing? How many have stopped shopping on line to protect the ever closing high street?

    So my question to you, our steel industry has been struggling since 2005, British steel as it is called now(actually an city investment group), was sold to them by tata for one pound and only 10 days ago were given a government £100 million bridging loan to then go into recievership this morning. How much would you invest in them and what would you do with it
     
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  12. https://t.co/nJPD6dUFHX

    What an objectionable woman. I may be a little in love with her.

    Poor David Davies - proper skewered.

    LOL

    (Of course, a cretin would use a milkshake.)
     
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  13. [​IMG]
     
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  14. He didn’t even turn up to vote in 2017 when the EU was proposing protections for Steel. His then UKIP (now BXP) colleague Nathan Gill DID turn up...to vote them down.
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    true?
     
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  15. He would be correct that a clean break would allow the U.K. government to control our steel industry and not the eu
     
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  16. Control? As in, apply tariffs to Chinese steel...or subsidise UK steel..or both?
     
  17. Subject to US and China trade deals!
     
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  18. Once again, Leavers demonstrating that they know more about the effect the EU has on the UK's economy and politics than Remainders do.

    The UK cannot bail out British Steel due to EU regulations (not that I believe it's a good idea but it should be the UK's decision, not the EU's)
    The UK cannot negotiate any form of trade deal or tariffs independently of the EU - so the ability of British Steel to trade on the World stage cannot be affected by anything the UK Government can achieve at this time.

    The point is moot, in any event. The only thing that could have kept British Steel going was continuous public funding. It is too expensive a business for a relatively minuscule player to be able to compete with the Chinese.
     
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