"Here's my pitch lads. Now wait for it, coz you're going to like it...............I'm going to do exactly the same as Theresa May did." FFS
I don't think I've ever said it would as deals with the eu goes, needs to be better or the same. I believe I've always said that we should leave on a clean break wto & free trade deal and then work with the eu on the bits where there is a clear joint understanding in the same way any third country would. This would make negotiating more easy as both sides have to negotiate on an independent rule set On some areas, those rules will attain the same outcome, on some they will not. The whole point again however is where some extreme remainers confuse "we want to leave the eu and this is clear by the majority democratic peoples vote" with "we want to leave the eu depending on a deal". It is true that most of the house want brino, (brexit name only) but it shows what is wrong, our own politicians would rather fight us, than stand up for us and given every single one of them was elected on a peoples democratic majority vote, to say that system does not work would not only be hypocrysy but undermine all future democratic peoples elections. We want different and the ability to decide our own future, not much to ask for
The idea that we had to have a "Deal" in readiness before we leave the EU is rooted in Remainder logic and Remainder strategy. This approach was never intended to protect the UK's economy, borders and the rights of ex-pats - it was only ever a ploy to effect either the UK's slide back into full-on Remain or some hybrid version of Remain (Berlin's/MayBot's WA). There were and are protections that apply if the UK leaves on WTO terms. Article 24 can certainly cover this. Art24 protects both the UK's and the EU's trading interests whilst a FTA can be negotiated. It is especially in the EU's financial interests to adopt Art24 provisions and ultimately agree FTA terms, due to the nature of the trade balance between the UK and the EU. With this in mind, it is abundantly clear that the UK's and the EU's ability to trade after a WTO Brexit is not the blocker, not the reason for Brexit being delayed and fought over ... but you would be hard-pressed to see that if you rely only on MSM news source, with its AgitProp pronouncements over "cliff edges" and "crashing out". Remember the days when we had a real media? I do.
Tony Blair seemed quite reasonable on Sky News this morning. He still want's to stay in The EU, but at least he's clear on his position amd the position The Labour Party find themselves in today. I feel dirty now.
Just been reading the crap that prize clown Diana Abbott is spouting she's now saying a second referendum wouldn't be undemocratic why does Corbin let this idiot speak in public in fact why is she still on the labour front bench She does nothing for the credibility of the Labour Party
She'll also be saying that taking "Leave" off the ballot paper wouldn't be undemocratic too, I bet. Let's hope whoever gets the PM job calls the deal dead on day one. Then we can get rid of the ridiculous suggestion that it is somehow an option.
I read that Abbott believes that a 2nd Ref can be run whilst "still respecting the result of the 2016 Ref". *What* is those drugs she takes?
Usually I turn it over, but he was unusually pragmatic. I never heard him trying to use "Abbott" maths to say Remain had won by some strange calculation method. I had just woken up, so I could have dreamt this, you understand.
I'd be quite comfortable with this (below) Option 1, we recind Article 50 Option 2, we leave the same day with no deal. The HoC would never allow it thought. The choice has to be stay (May's deal), or stay. And they wonder wht The Brexit Party romped this. The genie is out of the bottle and it ain't going back in.
