British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. why? because it exposes your hypocriscy on standards and chlorinated food?

    Unless that is american chicken that you have been served as food, then your pissing in the wind now your argument has failed
     
  2. Bad meat is dangerous and could kill my kids, how my TV was made isn't and can't.

    I'm not arsed about chlorine intake, that isn't the point, why do you keep repeating it? You're like some mad pseudo-intellect with a liberal sprinkling of stubbornness to make it easier to see what's underneath....which is nowt!
     
  3. Fin, you are from a nation who has had salmon banned from entering the U.S. because Scotland does not have wild salmon anymore, it is all farm produced, fed chemicals and growth hormones and pink dyes to make it look better for the market, and that isn't even including the diseases

    I'm sure most of the U.K. would ban Scottish salmon if it knew the facts about their food. I know you wouldn't allow it being a passionate campaigner for non molested food :D

    https://theferret.scot/pictures-diseases-farmed-fish/

    https://www.peta.org.uk/blog/shocking-video-exposes-cruel-salmon-farming-in-scotland/
     
  4. Yes it could as could any bad meat from any country in the world but you seem focused only on the usa, which is an odd thing because when I asked was the picture you put forward, american chicken served to you? you glossed over it choosing to ignore it, I'm going to guess that is a library picture and nothing more so your picture might just as well have been icebergs in an egg factory

    Again, it was you who raised the poor protections of the staff and when I pointed out you only seem to be worried about trumps america whilst buying products from say china, india, and many countries where there are no workers rights, are paid peanuts and some of the biggest suppliers of electrical gadgets you personally use, are in state factories with no rights at all, your reply was ..it's not even worth talking about

    hardly, you make a statement, I try and see if it is based on fact and when it comes to yours, most is not. You can hardly blame me for your poor skills
     

  5. Here you go again, seeing stuff that is not there. Where did I mention protecting staff and workers' rights? Have you got filtered glasses on that change what people write?

    Do you also just look for stuff to read that supports the opinions you made before you actually did any reading?
     
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  6. This picture put forward by you, is it american chicken and was it served to you, a simple yes or no will do, must warn you, I know where the picture comes from


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  7. Bengal - typical remainer tactics of false news - pathetic, just like their sense of humour :blush:
     
  8. That chlorinated chicken looks well tasty. Yummy :yum
     
  9. That ain't chlorinated Ymerican Chicken, that's clearly British remainer chicken: headless :thinkingface:
     
  10. Why is my humorous addition under the scope here? Of course its just a google ripped picture.

    You decoy with irrelevant and often obfuscatory twaddle. Is Donald your role model?
     
  11. yet it still surpases EU regs that are far more stringent than american.
    with that you can kinda know whats coming in any future american protectionist policy
     
    #33532 finm, Jun 5, 2019
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  12. well then, there is a quandry, if as you suggest the usa's standards are lower and scottish salmon can't even meet those?...
     
  13. So the picture you put forward had nothing to do with american chicken, chicken you had been served, or had for dinner?

    Your honour, I wish it noted that the obfuscatory twaddle was in fact, from the honourable member from strasbourgs own posts.
     
    #33534 noobie, Jun 5, 2019
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  14. no quandry. noob. it meets it. they banned canadian and chillian too.
    protectionist policy
     
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  15. Forget the chlorination debate for the moment. Why would you want chicken from the States?
    The environmental idea is to source your food as near to home as possible. I don't think I'd knowingly buy a chicken that came from more than 50 miles away. The idea of getting some factory-farmed thing from across the Atlantic just makes no sense at all.

    It's the same with beef or lamb. Why would you want to get it from Australia, the US or New Zealand? The whole of the UK is lousy with sheep. We're meant to be eating less red meat in any case, so there is probably enough in the UK without importing it from anywhere. Too expensive? Households have never spent a smaller proportion of their income on food.

    I try and buy seasonal produce where possible. No, that doesn't mean that I only buy tomatoes for a few months of the year when they are in season, but it does mean that I won't buy asparagus from Peru. I just wait until it's available in Europe. Mangos and bananas are fair enough. They aren't available from Europe. But I don't need to be eating (tasteless) strawberries in March. Nor does anyone else come to that.

    So I am sort of failing to see why we would need any farm produce from the US, really. Couldn't it be got from Europe which is a lot closer to home?
     
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  16. I wouldn't disagree with you. Previously when we looked at particularly foodstuffs, we export about the same-ish lamb as we import and the same goes for quite a few products in the same vain. By buying locally and or within the nation, we also reduce our logistical carbon footprint whilst concentrating more on value for our own farmers.

    The chicken thing....Brexiteers where accused of withdrawing from the world and we pointed out that it is far from the case as we will be able to deal now with all nations of the world now but directly

    remainers, who many are also anti trump, only focused on chicken from the states rather than anything and everything from the entire world, again thinking it would scare people back into the eu. What they forgot was, about 5 million brits visit the u.s. every year and have been more than happy to eat the food out there

    So yes, on key products we can manage within house so to speak but outside of that house we can now shop the world instead of being forced to shop the eu first and paying over the odds just to protect the eu system

    As to chlorinated chicken, best ask the crazy remainers, it has always been a diversion and a smoke screen and nothing more by people who hate trump and hate brexit.
     
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  17. its more to do with what our producers, employees and employers will have to do to compete in deregulated markets.
    brexiteers attempted to trivialize it by focusing on the chicken rather than the cost cutting and the inevitable squeeze on wages and conditions.
     
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  18. 8% of the UK population visits the US annually? Seems like an awful lot but I’m not saying you’re wrong.

    I wasn’t more than happy to eat the food in Orlando when I was there for a trade show. Finding anything edible was a real challenge unless you want piles of meat with industrial sauce in an all-you-can-eat format. Breakfast was appalling. Everything else is all fast food restaurant chains. Flying back via Frankfurt, there in the airport was a real bakery with superb loaves and pastries and you could see them all being made on the premises. And that’s in Germany- hardly a food Mecca. You only have to look at the size of our American friends to see that they haven’t really got a handle on eating yet.
     
  19. 0.5% flying 16 times.
     
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