British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. You mean 5 million Brits don’t visit the US every year?
    This sounds more likely.
     
  2. hmm. 60mill divided by 200= 300,000 x 16 nah. still to much. going by the source it probably includes pilots and cabin crew.
    sly.
     
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  3. Of course they did malcom :D

    Brexiteers explained the worlds food was now available and directly so no artificially higher prices due to protectionism, it was also mentioned the subsidy to british farmers in the early years would be used from ex eu funds to help them with the transition.

    Honestly the way some of you talk, unless you are in the eu 27 then you must be a third world country:rolleyes:
     
  4. You do not need a smokscreen for Trump. He fills his own Twitter feed and interviews contradictory shite.
     
  5. well I wasn't sure so I looked it up (some of you should try such a novel thing:D ) and I got the figures

    first was the united states embassy website, i thought they might know a bit more that two remainers on the internet,
    and it shows for the years 2015 and 2017 brits to the u.s. was around 4.9 million
    https://travel.trade.gov/outreachpages/download_data_table/Fast_Facts_2015.pdf

    Then I tried other sources for more recent and 2018 showed that had dropped to 3.4 million as stricter american visa guidelines came in
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/578815/most-visited-countries-united-kingdom-uk-residents/
     
  6. you're not donald trump are you?
     
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  7. artificially higher prices?. reassuringly expensive maybe.
    its kinda ironic that we will be competing with lower standards with the associated health risks just when there's talk of insurance based health care. nice.
    anyhoos, while yer sitting there, preaching from yer artificially higher priced ivory tower, ignoring the fact you live the most subsidized area of the UK. i shall be doing the do. another busy day, my main man has chosen to take some of his 30 payed days leave to go and see metalica in Ireland
    cvnt.
     
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  8. Anyway, back to my question, where did I mention protecting workers in the chicken business?
     
  9. Is he the canadian one fin? they have no loyalty
     
  10. Interesting. I am suspecting, though, that there is a conflation between visits and visitors. This is the same as website traffic stats: you don’t want to be confusing visits with unique visitors. For the UK it may be even more confusing as they may be counting arrivals from the UK. This being an international hub, perhaps plenty of these people aren’t resident in the the UK. Perhaps.

    A 30% drop in one year due to changes in visa requirements also seems odd. This would suddenly brand 30% of potential UK visitors as undesirables. Could be, I suppose. More likely (without your commitment to in-depth research) is that the visa requirements, tightening up on Muslims particularly, hit plenty of people using Heathrow to go to the States who weren’t British. What were the visa changes and why would they affect 30% of UK visitors?

    The figures are so anomalous that I’d really need to understand more behind them before using them as indicative of anything.

    Yours sincerely,
    Some idiot Remainer on the internet.
     
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  11. no, he was never canadian. he lived there for a few years. he didnt think the lack of paid holidays and the cost of health care was worth the higher wage.
     
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  12. Next you will be telling me the winners didn't win as there was more who didn't win so they won. If figures from the countries own government on tourism is unnaceptable, I'd like your thought on what would be?

    From my own experience, when I had a ten year u.s. visa and lived there a few years, I sometimes get asked about the procedure about going to the embassy. Previously a police warning really wouldn't garnish a big interest from the us immigration, now they phrase it as, have you ever been arrested?

    For those it now can involve a trip to the embassy, a police certificate confirming the date and reason even for something as simple as a two week holiday. I doubt it would be the entire drop, I suspect economy and money is the biggest factor but they are certainly tightening up on who is going in and want to know more about them.

    I understand they now even ask for your social media and email accounts and passwords for 5 years?
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48486672

    https://securityboulevard.com/2019/...up-social-media-privacy-for-us-visa-approval/
     
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  13. I'd be more scared about the health service than the guns.

    A few French friends I have here have lived in USA. The older they get, the more worrying the health service is. Or if you have kids. One was paying $2,000 per month in family insurance. My current business partner is French with US citizenship. The only way he could afford to live there was to carry on paying his social security payments in France...so he could leg it back here, for chronic illness at least.

    I have a US friend here in Strasbourg, his son fell off a slide in a park. Ruptured his spleen. Helicopter transport to the hospital, surgery and a long stay in a hospital bed.

    The bill started off at $300,000 and was settled at $120,000. How fucked up is that. All of it. However, me and my mates are clearly pinko, liberal, wet lettuces. So my thoughts are clearly clouded.

    Let's have more Trump in our lives!
     
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  14. The Americans are obsessed with deals and mercantile exchange. That is why so few crimes ever go to trial. You waive your right to a trial in order to do a plea bargain or deal. The understanding is that if you don’t and are found guilty (lose) it’s all going to be so much worse for you. It’s Wheel of Fortune - are you going to take the money or spin the wheel? Oh, how unfortunate! It’s the booby prize!

    Within this context, negotiating your hospital bill makes perfect sense, as does electing a deal maker (deal breaker) as president. The US is about as foreign to the UK as Iran.
     
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  15. I think Iran would be easier to get to grips with though :thinkingface:
     
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  16. Breaking News: Sensationalist headlines blame Brexit for Ford Bridgend closure :bucktooth:
     
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  17. I searched Ford Bridgend under Google news. Not much mention of Brexit so far...I even clicked open 3 articles. The only sensationalism I see is in your post.

    You wouldn't be poking the fire of your little echo chamber in here, would you?
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  18. Try the Metro Mr Sensationalist :thinkingface:
     
  19. I only ever tell the truth, I am not a Remainer cry baby:
    Word for word...
    Ford axes Bridgend plant months after warning Brexit would destroy UK car industry
     
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