This thread is about learning how the DWC works. DWC setting, DTC setting, gear, height, distance, speed etc. Share your experiences here. Us kids want to know. The Good , Bad and hopefully not Ugly .
I can tell you on a 1200 enduro in touring mode it doesn't work too well on uphill tight left handers No idea on height or distance, but enough to give the wife a bit of a surprise (and me too to be fair) I think if you try to moderate the throttle yourself it seems to confuse it, so if you shut off a little as the wheel starts to climb only to reapply more throttle it will come up no problem.
I've turned my DWC down to 1 on all modes. Lifts the wheel and makes for a more interesting ride at times but traction tends to cut in and stop the fun at other times.
I've noticed that interaction between DWC and DTC as well. As for gears, 2nd is the most fun. BTW, Stock touring mode ( DTC 5 & DWC 3) is able to hover in 2nd until the bike is ready for 3rd. I'd say the height is a least a foot and could be a bit more but it's hard to tell when alone. The display lights up with red and perhaps some amber also although my mind was on other things. Speed at lift-off is about 60kph and climbs from there. FYI, I've changed the rear sprocket from 40 to a 42T on my 1260.
I noticed the same thing about cutting off the fun on my 1200 DVT. I'm used to large bore 2 stroke dirt bikes so I usually don't have a problem with throttle control. I turned DTC and DWC both to 0. I left the ABS set to level 2, just in case.
I think I’ll be turning DWC off, I do like the DTC on the standard setting in SPORT mode though as whilst accelerating hard around a corner I find the back end will squirm and slide but not slide too much. Issue is it cuts in too much whilst the bikes sat upright in first and second gears. I may knock it down one more notch and see how how I get on. I mean, what’s the worst that could happen?!
I have found the same thing, on tight left or right handers going up steep Hills it will cut the power halfway through the corner, on my DVT I shut DWC control off entirely. Interestingly enough on my 1260 it works fine and I'll leave it set at 1, as far as the traction control I leave it set at 3
The point of my thread was to test the DWC therefore I don't want to turn it off but to gauge what it does at different settings. I'll turn-off the DTC and isolate the DWC in Sport. DWC 2, DTC 0. Let's see what transpires.
I noticed that if you turn the TC down too much it gives you a warning on the dash. I can't remember what the range is, but I think in sport mode I have it turned down to 2. I found that the TC was taking the edge off of acceleration while leant over, and made the bike feel a bit flat. Can't comment too much about wheelies, as I'm a bit of a wuss in that regard! That said, it does tend to float up nicely coming out of low speed corners, especially if there's a little crest to help things along!
@MotoNik I'm not good at wheelies thus my interest in the DWC protection. Balance point is beyond my abilities.
Ever considered a wheelie school? I know I have! Or buy a Monster 1200 - I can say from experience that they happen a lot with those!
I've been to Track School and would sign-up for Wheelie School in a nano-second if there was one available in my area. BTW, I have a Monster 1200R and love lifting the wheel up. I'm just too chicken to go to the balance point. Notwithstanding, I'm improving albeit without consistency. Once in awhile I get a nice one that sucker's me back for more. It's a bit like golf.
I kept turning mine down in an attempt to fix the way it would launch. With either DTC or DWC turned on I noticed that if you launched hard from a stop for maybe 1 second then roll the throttle down but not off, there was a strange surge of power even while you were rolling off. I think that with those controlls enabled (even at setting 1) during the hard launch they were cutting in and as you roll off the throttle the computer then stops interfering and full power is restored creating the surge I was feeling. Whith the DTC and DWC both set to zero this surge is not present.
I did one a few years ago run by a guy on another forum. There are 2 types of school, those who teach throttle wheelies and others who teach how to clutch up the front. The one i did was throttle and basically holding a steady throttle at 30 mph on 1200 bandits in first gear then whack open the throttle to a steady hold. The bikes would lift the front and hold about a foot or 2 off the deck up to about 70 mph before coming back down. Its mainly about having the confidence not to panic when the front comes up and experiencing that feeling .... I dont now shit myself when the front comes up in Sport mode and i remember that mantra from the instructor Paul Gower "Knees in tight, foot over rear brake, add throttle and hold"
You need to turn the DWC completely off to get the front any higher than a foot and for any distance....i'll try an get a photo or 2 to explain
Well went out on mine lst nigt with the DWC turned off. Makes for much better (and exciting at times) ride. Its staying off I have also knocked the DTC down by one on touring so it is the same as it is on sport, which is No.3 off the top of my head.
I was out today but not specifically for wheelies however since I'm on the bike... While in 2nd gear, (engine High, DWC 3 & DTC 5) I whacked the throttled (more than my usual) while popping the clutch, staying on the gas and voila...Most height ever and didn't have to chase the RPM's as I was up there for what seemed like awhile (relatively speaking). Noticed amber lights on the display staying on throughout the fun. Best one yet on the Multi. One that note, the manual states: Levels 1, 2 and 3 allow easier wheelies, but reduce their speed: these levels are recommended only for track use and for expert riders who can control wheelies on their own and exploit the system feature that reduces the speed at which the front wheel tends to lift. This does not infer height control as I initially thought it did. Comments?
I've been wondering lately, considering the problems I've had with simple quick shifter, How does anybody know if DWC and DTC actually work reliably? Are they consistent between bikes? Can DWC be trusted every time?
Well with it totally off the wheel certainly comes up sooner and easier. Believe me, its not like you turn it off and the bikes trying to do loops everywhere though, if you are an experienced rider its not an issue and easy to control.
