British Indy: What Happens Now?

and no, I did not make that point by mistake, smaller isn't always better. As I explained, the problem is that we have in the past conquered most of the world and do not want to do that again.

The eu is on that path and the last ten years they have adopted the latest mobile phone addiction, their path is, I constantly want bigger, faster, better than anyone else and that race as we found out, is a never ending race that never stops

I mentioned Norway because like most of the nordics, they know they have to pay more to get more and they seem happy to do that. Yes I also know you and fin will use that for the indi threads but remember, Scotland will never be Norway because it is fulla Scots

 

And there we have it.

Naked xenophobia

 

not you personally el but as general opinion, most remainers seem obsessed with what about now, most brexiteers see grand kids and grandkids grandkids.

The world is starting to change and in hippy dippy countries like ours, the environmental campaign is where our children and granchildren are going. They will push for environmental accountability such as, why are flying lamb from new zealand or beef from argentina when we have both here? The carbon spend will just not be acceptable to them and they will see legislation for that I'm sure.

This is where I feel we will value farmers and the industry more if it is home grown.

 

How so? one minute you like my post on the bike you like and the next minute you don't like my post on the bit you don't like.

If there is naked anything, it is selective sillyness on your part, there is never Xenophobia on my part.

 

How can we be looking for the old days of empire and.... being islationists little englanders seeking back into their shell away from the world at the same time?

I do wish remainers would make their mind up.

It's also worth mentioning el, it is your last two posts and none of mine that have said

The reason we export is that Johnny Foreigner

“good old days” when we had an empire full of subservient darkies

and never ceases to amaze me how many remainers use those terms, whilst accusing brexiteers of being racist who don't use those terms

 

Unfortunately I don’t think the politicians care about the long term consequences.

I sort of agree about leavers - but I’d have said they tend to be optimists.

 

its just arguing for arguings sake.

 

You may not like it El but think on it, who in the whole brexit debate has used racist terms more than any other side? It has been remainers. Many of them have behaved like those middle class who look down on drug dealers on the street whilst they close their doors for the evening toot of coke

I have said, as much of the brexit project has said, the eu has gotten too big, far to big and to a point many have said they no longer wish to be part of it as a project. We want to remain friends as we will always be european but not european project. We've also used referendums and all legal process's to achieve the aim of an independent country on the worlds stage

That view has been consistent all along

Enjoy your gig

 

except all the polling said it was mostly fears about immigration that was the main driver.
here comes the arguing for arguings sake.

 

That was certainly a large concern fin but remainers then started throwing around the racist xenophobe claim every 5 minutes but when you checked the concern, most of it was we wanted a controlled immigration system and not, no immigration.

Immigrants play an important part in this countries past and future.

 

Why do you hate me !

 

i think the rise in race related crime said more. and we had all the control's we needed re immigration

 

I seem to remember the media was reporting more race crimes, I even remember once case where they swore a man who died was a sober man who was attacked just because he was polish, media claimed race crime, polish minister came over, went to the town, chief constable made a speech, local mp made a speech.

It went to court and turned out the polish bloke was shitfaced and argued, pushed and shouted at some ferral kids in a small local shopping centre and one did a one punch death. The coroner also ruled it was not race hate. Needles to say they hardly reported that in a way they did when they called it race hate.

We ultimately had some controls over immigration but blairs last swagger at opening the doors meant we largely had none so again

Migrants were not the issue, the open door policy was and what was sought was a controlled immigration system, nothing more.

 

No need to pity me Exy i was poor like you once.

 

there was no open door policy. EU member policy wasnt followed.

 

There was always an open door policy fin because our start and end procedures always had the eu as the end point in some form. Leaving the eu means we can have a fairer policy, we have discussed this many times