British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. No, how do all 27 other EU countries compare? And what will the EU tax rate be in the future :thinkingface:
     
  2. I have sympathy with that view. It’s like me now being for a No Deal Brexit. If that’s what the majority want, they can have it and take what comes.
     
  3. You are in denial.

    We are leaving the EU
     
  4. I said 27 :yum current tense :yum silly billy :yum Halloween hopefully, but the fluffies will fuck it over again you watch :eyes:
     
  5. He is being silly this morning isn't he
     
  6. i will always vote for indi, i will always support progressiv tax policy, but i dont intend to spend my life fighting it. at the moment we have a lagitamate reason for calling another reff. at the moment i am v,tax inifficent. if tory policy is gonna be the order off the day. i will use it. if the working class vote tory as they have been, then thats what i will use.
     
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  7. There is no budget between now and 31/10/19

    It is U.K. and EU law that we leave in 31/10

    I follow what the law says and what the facts are until the facts/law change
     
  8. What, you follow facts :eek:

    :p
     
  9. Wait? What? when did that happen?
     
  10. Yes

    Like its a fact that

    there is no technology solution to the Irish border

    You can’t control your borders with an open British border

    The EU have ruled out gatt 24

    The Eu have ruled out re negotiations on the WA

    Many of you guys are dreaming the above not to be true
     
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  11. I can't see that. It was asked very early in the campaign and continually and the replies tended to be that some of the money used for eu funding would initially be used to maintain current support for the farmers/fisheries but with a view to long term discussions about the farming industry and the way forward. Dealing within one country makes us more able to diversify far quicker and the agriculture requirements seem to be changing due to environment and eating habits

    Fishing is a funny one. The uncertianty is the issue, due to the uk fleet largely being decimated by the fisheries agreement. Buying new boats, fleets etc is massively expensive particularly for one or two boat independents. They can get finance but they need to know where they stand. If we leave with no deal then in black and white, all the fish in our uk seas is ours. It will be interesting to see what happens though
     
  12. We're about to find out when Johnson gets the top job...
     
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  13. Exactly who will we be selling fish to on a no deal exit?
     
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  14. We wont. That's what makes this whole thing "sustainable" :)
     
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  15. The exact same people who eat them now, all that will change will be the price and companies between themselves will sort that out whilst including the options of , no tariffs or wto gatt 24 tariffs.

    We will, they won't suddenly go fish free, you forget (dissapointingly) one of the first rules of business is to find a way through trading arrangements

    The other thing as I mentioned earlier about the eu deal with south america (i can supply telescopes for remainers who lack the ability to plan long term :D) because you lot only focus on bwaaahhhh we lost) and forget europe is involved in this too. There is a rising and tremendous unhappyness about the south american deal

    As I haven't got that long to wait whilst it clicks with you:eyes:, we recently had euro elections throughout the eu project and many of the parties on mainland europe that grew in size and representation, were green parties. They will be pushing to cut down on the eu expansion in regards to many business deals that encourage deals from overseas where they make the same stuff in house so to speak .

    Those green parties from all countries are uniting within the eu parliament and are seeking ethical before multinational, the old guard is changing and "what is local to me" will be a bigger push of that I have no doubt.
     
  16. Not at all. As you undoubtedly know (as you seem to believe you are the oracle on such matters), in business, if a trading arrangement is suddenly made difficult then the first thing a buyer will do is find an easier, and more often than not, cheaper alternative. I'm afraid that this is exactly what will happen.

    Utopia is just a word and not a reality as some may think and believe.
     
  17. No oracle at all, just my opinion and as many facts as I can find but it is still just my opinion. True, business, like water, will try and find the path of least resistance however how cheap the fish is to the eu, mostly depends on the eu.

    Utopia will never happen as it relies on humans who are totally unreliable but, you can get a consensus and in varying amounts, just like the vote to leave :D



    But like it or not, the green movement is starting to have more influence in business and politics and no more so than the eu mainland.
     
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  19. You are dreaming.

    Checks at borders to ensure foods are being shipped to EU spec will mean that fresh fish will not arrive on French plates......errr fresh.

    El toro has hit the nail bang on the head. I need add nothing further, save to say that the French in particular will do everything they can to protect their fisherman’s interest, particularly as they will have lost the ability to fish in “British” waters.

    A pyrrhic victory
     
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