British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. except they probably wont. chances are the waters will be traded off for access to other markets.
    and you cant freeze live products.
     
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  2. It’s funny how the Tories can find billions to give to the DUP, and farmers and fisherman; could it be that’s because they like to vote Tory?
     
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  3. Yip, the top money gets paid for fresh, but very dead fish, as opposed to frozen. It can’t be sitting on a dock hanging about for clearance.

    The fisherman will not be pleased at access being traded away. That’s not what they voted for. That will be another group of No voters moving to YES.
     
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  4. I'm old enough to remember when the EU invented international trade.
     
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  6. Didn't stop you posting 2 posts 3 minutes later though Mary

    You may want to look into fresh fish and how much freezing takes place.You ever seen a trawler catch one fish then shoot back to port before it goes off? Honestly, tsk

    silly man how can they protect their fleet if most of their fishing happens in british waters then then lose it, they can't protect what they don't have.

    Given how you have been today, I sought some advice for you https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/general_health/1489961-Suffering-with-really-bad-PMT-Help
     
  7. they dont freeze live shellfish, which is worth about half a bill to the west coast.
     
  8. Interesting you say traded away when we haven't even done the leave deal yet, do you have any confirmation it has been traded away or just the usual morrissey doom and gloom with no facts to support it?
     
  9. so the french could improve their strike ratio, they like that sort of thing
     
  10. Might be interesting to reset the poll of this thread (if that’s possible) and see what people think now.

    I wonder how many are fed up to the back teeth of it all and would rather cancel leaving.
     
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  11. tell me fin, how far out do you have to go to get shellfish?
     
  12. the fact is, they did it on the way in. most of your ecconomy is banking and services, considering about 65% of fish is landed in scotland and no jobs (votes) are at risk in the areas that elect govs, what else have you got to trade?
     
  13. more importantly, how far do they have to travel to the markets?
     
  14. As you didn't answer I'll explain why I asked, In regards to shellfish, the frenchies, as do the dutch, belgium etc have their own 12 mile coastal limits and looking through, they also catch and sell shellfish so the reason why I asked is that you made it look like no one in europe other than us catches shellfish

    £9.5 million according to the scottish government and declining? https://www.gov.scot/news/scottish-shellfish-farm-production-survey-2018/
     
  15. The top money is in shell fish, langoustines, prawns and fresh fish.

    Some fish gets frozen but that’s not what business wants to be selling. Who wants to get £2 for a fish when you can get £3? Costs the same to buy it at the market. It’s estimated that 80% of fresh fish from Scotland gets sold through Bolougne and it has 16 hours to get there.

    Thatcher wanted the tunnel built knowing in itself it was unlikely to make a profit. It’s benefit is in the ability to trade in a more efficient way than before. To be able to trade goods which had not been traded before, at least in no significant way.

    Leaving the EU will undo the benefit of the tunnel for some industries and take us back 30 years. Fresh seafood and other foods being good examples.
     
  16. I would think Fins figure includes for crustaceans, which are deepwater. Clearly you haven’t had fresh langoustines from Scottish waters. They are a class apart which is why they sell for a lot of money in Europe
     
  17. Well you say that about frozen but here is the explanation from the scottish shellfish industries own board (funded by eu money I may add) and I quote

    Fresh mussels are loveingly bagged and ready for sale, whilst mussels for our growing ready meal range are carefully processed and made ready for dispatch to the end customer

    http://www.scottishshellfish.co.uk/from-sea-to-plate/
     
  18. thats farm production. noob.
    exported to france and spain, usually live. the market is worth near half a bill. with taffifs expected to add 41mill.
     
  19. perhaps you can answer as fin will not, do the french, belgium, dutch etc fish for shellfish in their own 12 mile territories?
     
  20. sigh.
     
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