Meanwhile, post-No Deal Brexit... “With Canada joining Japan in choosing not to roll over the existing EU trade deal in the event of a no-deal Brexit, let's recap on where we are on trade in no-deal Brexit - TLR - not at all a pretty picture” “There are 24 countries with which the UK has a >£10bn trading relationship (exports plus imports). We currently have preferential deals with 16 (EU plus highlighted). Of these we believe only one (South Korea) will be unchanged in a no-deal Brexit. “In terms of smaller trade partners it is interesting to note that the UK has so far failed to roll over any agreements with any other EU neighbours, with the exceptions of Israel and the Palestinian Territories. “So if we leave the EU with no-deal on October 31 we will lose virtually all of our preferential access to the wider European markets, as well as Japan and Canada.” David Henig - co-founder, uktradeforum.net https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1146324885205135360.html
Two points on the above if I may, we will lose virtually all of our preferential access to the wider European markets, as well as Japan and Canada.” is not the same as we lose access to wider european markets as well as japan and canada, because we won't. We simply will not be part of the eu block but will still trade with those countries outside and inside the eu secondly when you quote someone from an organisation no one has heard of in most circles, try looking at their "about" page as the vast majority of the uktradeforum.net have eu interests and history of being involved with the eu Mr Henig, the person you put forward is also the director of the ecipe think tank, to save you looking here it is https://ecipe.org/ or as it's otherwise known , the European Centre for International Political Economy. Hardly an independent and unbiased group or director
“Ooh look - it’s got the word EUROPE in it. Must be BIASED”. Jesus Christ you’re a clown. There may still be a *tiny* chance he’s more of an expert on international trade than you are. *Nobody* is saying we would lose ALL access to those markets. That’s not a revelation, genius But any business in a competitive sector (ie: most) can ill afford the additional hit of extra tariff hikes on prices or regulatory barriers to market entry which will result from loss of “preferential” access. Would you choose to make your own business say 10 or 20% less competitive in its nearest geographical export markets...? Asking for a friend Losing preferential trading terms WILL decrease many UK businesses’ competitiveness: that’s WHY we do trade deals in the first place. And costs may well increase for many importers... Let me guess: “the Independent is a remoaner newspaper! It’s hardly er, independent”
Look mate, we have a greasy failed GP with an admission of expense fiddling and defrauding the people he is paid to represent, who is on record as saying they will be the easiest trade deals to sign in the history of humanity. There are no down sides, only up sides remember. Now fall the fcuk in.
Inflation will be in double figures by Xmas if Johnson gets his way. Virgin companies have predicted £1=$1 too. There is no upside to Johnson's politics. Unless you don't like foreign people i guess. Or you are a multi multi millionaire.
Could it be you forgot to mention the one group and one individual whose lively hoods rely as think tanks, you simply forgot to mention the eu part? I wonder if you read the full article in the grocer magazine that was then copied by the independent where the birds eye chap mentioned their processing operations in Germany?
Hahaha just in time for christmas? that should suit you grinch. Desperation is setting is as we get closer to leaving
Genuine question here, as I'm interested in your psychology. Is there anything, anything at all, in the aftermath of a hard brexit, that would make you admit you were wrong, or, no matter what the consequences for yourself, anyone else, or future generations, will you think you are right irrespective?
If the UK Leaves the EU and then Scotland gets independence there could well be some fun to be had with the 'told you so'
I guess if everybody's standard of living increases dramatically and their wages double, then @noobie will happily admit he was wrong and underestimated the benefits of leaving the EU. If we merely become significantly better off as a country, which is what will happen, he might just mention it in passing. The same question back at you......."Is there anything, anything at all, in the aftermath of a hard brexit, that would make you admit you were wrong, or, no matter what the consequences for yourself, anyone else, or future generations, will you think you are right irrespective?"
It does not offend me personally, but most Scottish people I know find it offensive. So if you want to offend most Scottish people who casually look in on the forum and make yourself look bad, then keep going. Personally, I think it’s a bad idea to make the forum look bad. You are deterring Scottish people from joining or contributing. They are not mind readers to your good intention. I don’t mind you looking bad because I do not believe that you or several others have good intentions when you use the phrase since it’s often attached to a criticism of someone like Nicola Sturgeon, Alex Salmond or the idea of Scottish independence or that our oil wealth has been squandered or mocking Scotland’s success with renewables- those sorts of things. I can’t ever recall a post along the lines of “The Scottish have done a great job of......:.” It’s usually “.......that dour Scotchman Murray is back on the TV ......”
