British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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    i'v seen the emblem before. hmm, 5h columnist? 77th brigade? :thinkingface:
    :D
     
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  2. Brexit 'opportunity' to correct farm funding 'failings' https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-49168341

    They had to get

    "A no-deal Brexit is by far the biggest threat to farming and to our food and drink sector."

    In at the end though, just in case anyone had forgotten
     
  3. No-deal Brexit: 10 ways it could affect you https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47470864

    Another useful article, though the headline should be 3 ways, the other 7 are ‘could’ or ‘may’

    Oh hang on, the headline is ‘could’

    Sorry for wasting your time.
     
  4. Yes, I can definitely see the strings.
     
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  5. The BBC have been showing that article every 6 months or so since the beginning.

    At the very start of all of this, the media have done little else than say, we're all doomed, it will only effect us, our skin will fall off and we will have difficulty obtaining avocado's.

    Even as time rolls by and many of the predictions are shown to have been scaremongering, they continue to write at the bottom of a positive story "in spite of brexit"

    It's to be expected as I'm sure most understand the remain media, politicians and extreme remainers will throw everything and the kitchen sink from now till October the 31st
     
  6. hmm maybe thats why they where too busy to report about the 160,000,000 pounds taken by the UK Gov and payed to english farmers that was earmark for Scottish Farmers by the EU as hardship payments.
    But i trust them to do the right thing now tho.
     
  7. Funny part is allowing migrant workers, but not so excited at them being “permanent”.
    I dare bet the bigger problem is small farms and crofters being part of a larger estate. At which point you just know where the money will continue to go
    As usual bugger all to do with before or after Brexit really.
     
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  8. to me, the most efficent farms still getting the payments, sugests, its the bigger farms still getting their payments.
     
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  9. Please correct me if I’m wrong, isn’t the EU method of distribution of subsidies based on the amount of land they own ?
     
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  10. The big ones hoovering up the small ones you mean?
     
  11. i guess that played a part, along with locality/transportation costs, quality of the land that needs worked/maintained.
    with the ecconomy of scale, obviously the bigger farms appear more efficient
     
  12. There seems to be so much lazy journalism, where Brexit is used as a reason or excuse.
    The bigger questions should be where income will be generated from after Brexit?
    80 percent of trade is service sector.
    UK Government income is mostly from taxation.
    So if the plan from Boris and co is to cut taxes and the service sector shrinks also as expected after Brexit, where is the money coming from? Not the small change from small enterprises, but the big money.

    Im sure the answer is not from crofters in Scotland, fishing or similar. These sectors whilst giving some employment do not supply the bulk of UK wealth and are just a political football.

    Meanwhile the denial about the value of Sterling being unrelated to Brexit and the form it takes is bemusing. Okay, it does fluctuate, but it is no coincidence that when hard Brexit was off a few month back it was circa 1.17 euro to pound, Boris no deal and its 1.09. A hefty hit from an already devalued (after the referendum) currency. Similar story against the dollar.

    If business and investors thought that Brexit would be good for the UK economy would they not be investing big...and the pound would be getting stronger? Obviously something doesnt add up.
     
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  13. Seems they’re ok if they can afford to buy lots of land to increase their ‘subsidy’.

    I don’t quite get subsidies
     
  14. banking and services are only 25% of the ecconomy here.
    off the top of my head, i think the food and dring industry is wqorh around 6?bill anually to us .
     
  15. What percentage is 6bill ?
     
  16. take a wee guess who that might be? with half our private land owned by about 500 people.
     
  17. The French farmers ?
     
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  18. excluding oil our turnover is around 200bill. which equates to about 60bill in taxes.
     
  19. no.
     
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