That was my impression too; it has been obvious that the Referendum was an attempt by Cameron to bring the party together but I didn't realise that it ran so far back through the party and one could get the feeling that this has nothing to do with Europe but more about the party.
You could also say the reverse, the current refusal by the eu commission to negotiate since the deal or no deal from last august, is more about saving the eu commission/project, than the 28 member nations
Cor-bin says bringing us out of the EU at Halloween would be non Democratic - what a deluded tosspot that man is
Where in Article 50 does it says its a negotiation? I will give you a clue IT IS A PROCESS - IT DOES NOT MENTION IT ANYWHERE Are you ever going to get over your absurd sense of entitlement and ignorance and join the real world? There is no deal. We are leaving without a deal. Been telling you for almost a year now What word did Einstein use to describe someone who did the same thing repeatedly whilst always getting the same result?
So what your saying is , that little Froglet, Michelle Barnier who they sent over, when he claimed to be the eu commissions negotiator, he was lying but no one noticed him doing it?, cool, Them slippery lil buggers, even more reason to leave. Fancy them sending a bloke over with the term negotiator in his title and he was never going to negotiate. Good to know. Just as a by the by, article 50 Article 50 1. Any Member State may decide to withdraw from the Union in accordance with its own constitutional requirements. 2. A Member State which decides to withdraw shall notify the European Council of its intention. In the light of the guidelines provided by the European Council, the Union shall negotiate and conclude an agreement with that State, setting out the arrangements for its withdrawal, taking account of the framework for its future relationship with the Union. That agreement shall be negotiated in accordance with Article 218(3) of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union. It shall be concluded on behalf of the Union by the Council, acting by a qualified majority, after obtaining the consent of the European Parliament. 3. The Treaties shall cease to apply to the State in question from the date of entry into force of the withdrawal agreement or, failing that, two years after the notification referred to in paragraph 2, unless the European Council, in agreement with the Member State concerned, unanimously decides to extend this period. 4. For the purposes of paragraphs 2 and 3, the member of the European Council or of the Council representing the withdrawing Member State shall not participate in the discussions of the European Council or Council or in decisions concerning it. A qualified majority shall be defined in accordance with Article 238(3)(b) of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union. 5. If a State which has withdrawn from the Union asks to rejoin, its request shall be subject to the procedure referred to in Article 49. https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/brexit/brexit-brief-article-50 I wonder as I must be dysluxic, what does that word mean in paragraph 2 that I have underlined Same explanation from the eu themselves https://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegData/etudes/BRIE/2016/577971/EPRS_BRI(2016)577971_EN.pdf
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-b...-post-brexit-collapse-the-times-idUKKCN1UZ2CQ Why? Would this be a requirement if everything was going well... Wake up, smell the coffee.
LOL. Reuters. Anyway, the only way that we don't starve is if we stay in a fledgling superstate with a Committee that makes all the laws and no citizen can vote to have said committee removed. Which doesn't matter because this committee has our interests at heart and would never dream of misusing its power (cough*no audits*cough*no transparency of expenses*cough). Really? Seriously? Can anyone see a problem with this picture?
Stop being bullied by Barnie - stop quaking in your lil booties and hang on for the ride if the non democratic arseholes allow it of course
Doesn’t really say much, almost looks like a rumour. Same with the Times article it came from. Could it be argued that they are planning for worst case scenario ? Would that be a bad thing. It also mentions a list of companies - probably their friends companies and an excuse to give them money.
Because if he hadn't, there would be accusations of why didn't you. As a few of us have said continually, many of the funding projects over brexit will be the same whether it is not deal or an negotiated deal as we take infrastructure back. You must have missed they also announced a transition fund for farmers too, it's what prudent people do
Nicely done Politicians and business owners, seem to me, the sort of people that like having something else to blame, even better if they can use it to put more ‘free’ money in their business.
Yeah yeah, not everyone is comfortably well off. It is much easier to dismiss the hardships that people will face when you are not going to feel the affects to the same degree. A bit like Boris really. But you seem to have ignored the fact that Boris and his cronies think there is a requirement for emergency funds. Think about that. Somehow we have gone from a fantastic new deal and opportunities galore for the UK, to emergency funding.
Oh come on man. You of all people have spent so much time promoting the positive side of Brexit. And you continue to defend it no matter what. Funds for farmers. More money for NHS, more Police...a pattern is emerging. From the same party who gave us austerity by the bucket full. Get real.
Absolutely promoting it but those of us who are in favour have said the same thing, 2-3 years of repositioning where we take back many of the services we farmed out and then onward. We are able to assist those effected by the eu contribution who traditionally got a eu contribution but we are as a country changing anyway. Look throughout europe and you now have germanys gdp sinking not so much with their own situation but because they have another 26 countries to carry. We were and so far remain, the second largest contributor to the eu project, now we will have to only focus on the U.K. and building our future in a fast changing world. We are able to do this now where a country as powerful as Germany cannot, unless it leaves the eu
