British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. You must indeed
     
  2. He still didn't answer though :D
     
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  3. We still not left, then?

    Oh well, perhaps we will after all.

    Or maybe not.
     
  4. Why did you not highlight the words “for its withdrawal”. That is all the word “negotiate”relates to.

    You seem to think you it concerns the future relationship

    The negotiation has nothing to do with the British border in Ireland or the settlement figure, these are default. The backstop was the idea of the U.K. government which the EU agreed to FOR THE BENEFIT OF IRELAND

    It’s spelt “dyslexic”
     
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  5. YES - we can sell jaguar I pace and MRI scanners to the whole of Namibia
     


  6. Nope, you asked where it said "negotiation" in article 50 because it wasn't there, I showed you article 50 does have "negotiate" in it, clear as day

    I can't help if you're a dork :D Always happy to help
     
  7. Please explain why that would help, the iPace is built in Austria :p
    Now chill dude :cool::upyeah:
     
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  8. It’s as if the likes of Noobie never crossed the British border in Ireland pre GFA. If they had they would have seen a hard border manned by soldiers and overseen by helicopters and towers
     
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  9. Yeah and where do Starbucks pay their tax?
     
  10. You are right I should have been more explicit for an imbecile like you are referenced the scope of article 50
     
  11. You're more than welcome Mary, one day you will stop shooting yourself in the foot. Until that day, I'm always here to help ya buddy. :upyeah::D
     
  12. In their ipace I'm guessing :D
     
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  13. Good retort, erm, I think :bucktooth:, now Chill :cool:

    (Shit retort brw) :)
     
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  14. But hey, you are still waiting on the EU to buckle. A year ago you were insistent “a deal would be done” and now it’s obvious it won’t your mantra is either “a deal will still be done “ or “I voted for no deal anyway, I didn’t listen to Gove or Fox or Davies or Farage or BloJo when they said it would be easy to get s free trade deal. I didn’t believe them because they are experts and I don’t believe experts because I don’t have to. I just need faith in the British bulldog spirit”

    Then there is the backstop where the Brexiteers mantra is

    “We don’t need a backstop it will be easily sorted by technology but I can’t tell you what the technology is but it doesn’t matter because it will be easy, so easy we won’t need a backstop even though logically because it’s going to be easy it should be no
    Problem for us to agree to a backstop, the backstop the U.K. government asked for, but I don’t want it even though I believe we don’t need it. And if we all BELIEVE hard enough it will happen. Believe in the U.K. you treacherous remoaners”
     
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  15. Okay, I'll humour your madness and snowflakery Mary, let's look at those assumptions

    as you've said me rather than leavers I'll answer as such if that's okay? You still haven't got the eu bit have you.

    Both sides, U.K. and the eu commission both said all the way through the negotiations "nothing is agreed till everything is agreed", both sides. The eu needed the other 27 countries to agree, the U.K. needed the house of commons to agree, the 27 agreed the hoc did not.

    The ideal outcome was always with a deal but the eu's goal never was a deal, it was always to deter others from leaving. After 3 refusals by the house to agree then the next step was obvious, as per the vote, we are now leaving the eu

    A free trade was always possible, cold hard stone truthful facts, the eu has more to lose than we do and yet, because they were seeking to protect the project they took a gamble we would back down. They clearly underestimated their opposition and it has backfired on them spectacularly.

    Why did it backfire? Because U.K. politicians are responsible to the people, the eu commission is not

    I nearly got my violin out there for a moment, you okay son?

    The U.K. has like every member of the 28, a legal constitutional right to leave the eu, the backstop cancels that out as to have the backstop means some part of the U.K. remains in the eu. In that moment, the backstop removes a members constitutional legal right to leave the eu.

    We do know without hesitation, the U.K. has said the Good Friday Agreement is absolute so there will be no border of the past on the U.K.'s side, point blank, every single day of the week, the U.K. will not have one

    We do know whilst saying the gfa is absolute, the republic's government is being told by the eu, wanna bet? you're having one to protect the single market and feck the gfa.

    If you want a baddy in this arena, it is a management company with a blue flag and yellow stars on it
     
    #36196 noobie, Aug 11, 2019
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  16. Oh well that's that then:[​IMG]
     
  17. It's good news Monday!!!!!!


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  18. "Ms Lucas, whose party wants another Brexit referendum, said the aim would be to force a no-confidence vote in Prime Minister Boris Johnson. She would then hope to form a "national unity government".

    "Why women? Because I believe women have shown they can bring a different perspective to crises, are able to reach out to those they disagree with and cooperate to find solutions."

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49314840

    Lucas must have a very short memory. The last woman we had wasn't so great at any of those things, and neither was Maggie!



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  19. I'm more concerned with this last comment in the BBC article, not because I particularly think Clive Lewis has a point in this instance, but because...well....Ms Abbott o_O

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49314840


    Labour MP Clive Lewis called it a "very interesting proposal", but asked: "Where are the BAME women politicians?"
    Ms Lucas replied to him, saying she agreed that the list should be opened out further and she would love Ms Abbott to be involved.
     
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