to ficiltate brexit my Gov has to over rulled and ignored. its started already, the scotland act is being ripped up. the three brittish partys in scotland want parrity with rUK. its what they promote. we will be north brittain again sometime soon.
It boils down to who you can trust, small governments can work quickly and do things more effectively but that didn't turn out too well in the past in places such as Italy and Germany. Big government is slow and lethargic but are less likely to introduce 'dodgy' practices - neither is ideal
Isn't that what is happening now with the Conservatives by giving more power to the different areas of the UK and most of all getting rid of the overpowering bureaucracy of the EU.
i'm led to believe the UK gov is one of the most centralised in the west. you wont be convincing me anytime soon the Govs it produces and the civil service behind it dont invest a lot of its time defelecting and covering up its latest dodgy practices. and has been since its conseption.
maybe if the UK had a written constitution, maybe if it was a FPTP gov. maybe if we didnt have peer and patronage.
Yes and no, cons are making noises about giving power but reality is not quite that as it is somewhat controlled. The problem is that sometimes big is good and other times small is good - I don't see a solution that works all the time? In Ducati terms - main dealer takes ages and costs a fortune, some will like the fact that there is a guarantee and possible goodwill down the line. Independent does same job (possibly better) for less money and quicker, some are concerned that there is no guarantee if something (unrelated) goes wrong later, many aren't. DIY is even cheaper but possibly longer, some are happy with the risk of anything going wrong and not having stamped up service book some aren't.
OK, I see where you're coming from now and the previous posts make sense. I have no feelings either way for or against Scottish independence as I don't know enough about the pros and cons of it. However, my understanding is that in devolved matters the Scots Govt can't be overruled or is that wrong? Brexit wasn't a devolved matter. Small govts are generally more directly accountable, the 'classic' big govt would be the EU which is slow. lethargic and those that actually make the decisions completely unaccountable. At the risk of wandering off thread would the break up of the Union be a good or bad thing in general?
TORYS DO NOT DO DEVOLUTION. they do not devolve powers that are not anything but a trap. (not my words, the right honarble SoS for scotlands) they do not relinquish power. that is why they are corrupt. its the fear of loosing power. and that is their problem with brexit, the tory mindset is, if they are not in full controle, they are subjugated.
Is the break up of the union not similar to Brexit? That's the conundrum, historically (in our lifetime) those living in most of England haven't given a toss about Scotland, Wales & NI and why would they as they don't make any difference to them personally, conversely the other 3 nations have felt an amount of discomfort and of being ignored (it's up to you to decide whether you think this is justified or not). Cue Scottish Independence (triggered by Cameron effectively daring Salmond to try) and the press machine tells England 'get rid of these winging, scrounging fekkers' and tells Scotland 'don't be fekkin stupid, you'll drown without mother Westminster/Barnett blah blah'. Breaking up the Union will have negative consequences for all UK nations, but if there are more positives then it would be generally good. As you changed your mind over Brexit there are many who changed their mind over Scottish independence. I voted for Scottish independence and remain EU, my mind has not been changed even though I clearly see both options have problems but I will get on with whatever happens - I don't see it going the way I voted anytime soon but I've been wrong before
Completely agree they are happy to make noises of appeasement but in reality they will do the opposite
i only see it as a positive for rUK. the myth is that you only get a change of UK govs if scotland votes on mass for a labour gov. its bollox. the north of england finances would benifit massivly from indi. the far reaching consiquences (socially, financialy and last but deffo not least, mentally) of telling one part of the uk one thing and doing the opposit to win another term in Gov would start to end. maybe the sizable chunk in rUK would see what could be done in an ecconomy the size of the UK's, rather than pointing the finger at those that are achieving it with a fraction of the resources at hand. i dont see a single issue. well, i didnt before brexit. but i am confident in the cards we are holding, i am confident that a future indi rUK Gov will see sence. even if the electorate has to force them to.
No, I did not It was another forum member who did. Playing with it amused me to see how long it would take for one of you to object and under what facile terms. As expected someone did and under no firm cultural or historical terms whatsoever And so we move on from comparing people to inanimate objects to now dogs. Imagine Scots decided to call all your wives dogs? It’s no less arbitrary than @Loz latest proposal. You really all are quite pathetic: ensconced in your exceptionalism, deeming it your right to denigrate other nationalities for no real reason whatsoever.
