As soon as a question is asked and then answered nothing remains the same, if we had voted to remain in 2016 then things would stay similar but not quite the same. As we are now, nothing will be the same - as per 2014 vote on different matter. UK is fekked, Cameron should be in jail
He is of Scottish descent (well land ownership and title, probably not Gael or Pict - more likely German)
with a name like Cameron? no way... a quick google could tell me if his chapter where one one of the, Parcel of rogues.
Today, a bunch of politicians who were to all intents and purposes attempting to arrange a coup have been complaining that the government has beaten them to it by organising a coup against their coup. The fox has ambushed the chickens.. . Boris Johnson’s move to prorogue Parliament for most of September and a chunk of October actually only represents a couple of weeks of extra holiday time for MPs – Westminster would be shut for most of the time in question anyway for party conference season. The Commons would open for business again on 14 October, in time to debate the outcome of a crucial European Council summit on 17-18 October. If that meeting doesn’t provide any new deal – and it’s vanishingly unlikely that it will – then there’ll be no time for anything other than a no-deal Brexit. But there wasn’t anyway. Because the cold hard fact of the matter is that the opposition has no case. The UK has a democratically-elected government which is currently due to run until the summer of 2022. And that government has a mandate to deliver Brexit, in any form, come what may. It’s a common cry from Remain-supporting politicians and media alike that Johnson has “no mandate” for no-deal. But all leaving personal opinion aside, it’s simply impossible to support that argument. . Two-and-a-half years ago, the UK parliament voted overwhelmingly – 498 to 114 – to enact Article 50, the mechanism by which a member of the European Union leaves the organisation. The terms of Article 50 are clear, and stipulate a no-deal exit unless a deal is done. The EU has already granted the UK two extensions on the timetable, which have produced absolutely nothing. Four months later, a general election was held in which both main parties pledged to uphold the invocation of Article 50, and in which they secured 83% of the vote between them. The only UK-wide party standing on a manifesto of opposing Brexit got 7%. If the UK had wanted to vote to stop Brexit, that would have been the time to do so. And like it or not, nothing has happened since then which provides any sort of democratic basis for overturning the result of the 2016 referendum. There’s been a vote of no confidence in the government. It failed. A government elected on a policy of enacting Brexit via Article 50 remains legitimately, albeit precariously, in power. Numerous democratic votes in the House Of Commons have failed to agree on any form of deal, leaving no-deal as the default. That’s how the Article 50 process is designed. That’s what’s supposed to happen. Everybody knew that, and they voted down all the deals anyway. . The Prime Minister, who took office in accordance with the constitutional norms which also saw (for example) Gordon Brown and Nicola Sturgeon become leaders of their respective countries, has all the mandate he needs. The electorate voted for a process in which no-deal was always a possible – arguably a probable – outcome, and it endorsed that at the ballot box in June 2017. Nobody was prevented from voting Lib Dem in that election. Even in Scotland, which voted Remain in 2016 and returned a majority of anti-Brexit SNP MPs, most voters actually voted for parties who had expressly pledged to carry out Brexit in accordance with Article 50. (1.47m Scots voted Labour or Tory. 1.16m voted SNP or Lib Dem.) So both Parliament and the voters have more than had their say. They’ve had chance after chance to stop a no-deal Brexit, and have taken none of them. Sooner or later injury time has to run out and the referee will blow his whistle. The opposition are of course entitled – indeed, obliged – to take any steps within the rules to try to achieve their aims. But they’re the opposition for a reason. They lost the election. Unlike in Scotland, where a party seeking to repeat a referendum won an electoral and parliamentary mandate for their aims, no such thing has happened in the UK. Boris Johnson has not carried out a revolution. He is the PM by wholly lawful means. Democracy is prevailing. . t may yet be that a legal challenge will succeed where democratic means have failed. But we suspect that any such victory would be a Pyrrhic one, short-lived and swiftly followed by the election of a hardline Tory/Brexit Party administration. (Labour haven’t been above 30% in the polls since the European elections, and their average over the period is just 23.8%. Since Johnson became PM they’ve led in one poll out of 18. Six of those polls have given the Tories double-digit leads, never mind the Brexit Party vote which has also been in double digits for most of them. Imagine how much further Labour could fall if all its Leave-voting seats in the north of England blamed it for denying them their Brexit.) But in any event, we don’t think it will. And the truth is that it shouldn’t, for the reasons we’ve outlined above. However terrible it will be – and it will be terrible – the UK has chosen to leave the EU on October 31, and has rejected every opportunity to change its mind. It has taken none of them. It has chosen – public and politicians alike – what’s coming, and it deserves to get what it chose. Scotland had the chance to pre-emptively avoid the UK’s fate in 2014, and bottled it. But we also democratically chose to vote on it again. Scotland’s politicians now need to accept the UK’s choice and devote all of their efforts to assembling the lifeboats and giving their country the chance that British voters have already had and spurned. (Imagine for a moment how we’d feel if we’d won the indyref 52-48, won a subsequent election, and it was Unionists who were now trying to stop independence in the courts or with dubious procedural shenanigans. We’d be scandalised, and rightly so.)
