British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. Lammykins?

    Possibly, but he's not what you'd call the most calming of individuals and it's so hard to tell if he's angry at himself or just everyone else
     
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  2. He's an absolute clown show.

    I'm glad he has a platform - how would people know how insane he is without it? - but it is depressing in the extreme to know that people vote for him.
     
  3. Oh look, a Brexit Thread with less fluffies :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
     
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  4. Wow.....honestly and thoroughly gobsmacked :neutral:

    Please please try to find a way to listen back to LBC today somewhere between 14.00 and 14.15

    Shelagh Fogerty interviews a woman called Elena Perry (I believe) and she's attending a 'civil disobedience' protest against the shutting down of parliament.

    Her groups plan...and you'll love this....is to occupy parliament thus stopping parliament.....:eyes:

    So to be clear, she doesn't like the fact BJ can shut down parliament, and her groups answer to that is to shut down parliament.

    It was by far the most excruciating radio interview I've ever heard. Comedy gold


    Drum roll........... http://lbc.audioagain.com/presenters/33-shelagh-fogarty
     
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  5. Come on Fluffies, where are you...………...:eyes:
     
  6. Erm, but there will be nobody there - it's shut down already :thinkingface::yum
     
  7. You have to listen to it, honestly it's mind boggling. Even Fogerty was embarrassed for her. I actually felt sorry for her a bit myself....cringe o_O
     
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  8. So.

    BoJob has arranged to prorogue Parliament for a short period, timing-wise this leaves only a short window for Remoaner MPs to act against "No Deal Brexit". Remoaners in the streets are hysterical, literally losing their shit left and right and that's all the media wants to discuss.

    Huzzah! yell Brexiteers, BoJob is on our side, he's Churchill re-born, yada yada!

    Yeah? Hmm.

    So, a brief window has been left open in the run-up to 31 October. Why? For what purpose? It's not so that "No Deal" is forced through by default - in order to do that, prorogation would have been up to 1 November.

    Puzzling. Unless ...

    In the run-up to 31 Oct, what happens if the EU miraculously decides it has to cave on the Backstop? What if the EU signals that it will run with just the other elements of the Withdrawal Agreement and the Political Declaration. BoJob declares, "I have brow-beaten the EU into a compromise! Hurry up chaps and chapesses, we have to move fast or else it's 'No Deal' for us!".

    Faced with a tight legislative window, no manoeuvring room and an impending "No Deal", Remoaners in Parliament who couldn't bring themselves to vote in favour of that execrable May Surrender Document now see no option but to vote for the WA 2.0. Even some of the more cretinous and undiscerning Brexiteer MPs might go for that too (some of them already voted for WA 1.0 FFS, how thick is that?).

    We are witnessing an attempt to play us by the evergreen, ever-duplicitous and ever-toxic Conservative Party, on behalf of their Establishment friends.

    Keep voting, fools. You are all just NPCs in their Fantasy Role Playing Game.
     
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  9. Or in other words (yours previously I believe) the government announce 'we are going to raise taxes and shit in your mouth' - cue outrage followed by new deal of 'ok we are going to raise taxes but not shit in your mouth' Hurrah :upyeah:
     
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  10. Was she a looker? I don't mind the lookers getting their boobs out and gluing them to the glass like the last lot. If she's a minger, no ta, keep her out.
     
  11. You can be certain that there are devious machinations on all sides here. However, there is not a simple conflict between two sides going on ... it's more of a Battle Royale.

    My argument is that there is no guarantee that any of these efforts are being made in order to safeguard a Brexit worthy of the name.

    I will grudgingly admit that the ERG has attempted to engineer the cleanest possible Brexit and that there are a few backbencher MPs who "get" the EU and therefore understand the need for a clean Brexit ... but these elements don't have any more of a majority in Parliament than the "LibTard Cancel Brexit" folk or the "WA" supporters or the "Fuck Brexit, let's get Jezza in power and then worry about all that stuff" group.
     
  12. It's not that "Bushy Bird" lecturer is it? I'm still not quite over that troubling incident.
     
  13. We have too many opinionated people in the country, let alone parliament, where the feck is Mussolini when you need him?
     
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  14. Ladies bush did you say? rhymes with hinge??
     
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  15. Mussolini???

    Oh. Don't worry. McDonnell has him on a short leash, he'll be ready when the time is right.
     
  16. That's a relief :sweat:
     
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  17. Volume 49 of the Journals of the House of Commons (1783). Page 663 goes on to say:

    ". . . all Sovereign, Legislative, and Judicial Powers are the Rights of the People; and though the People have delegated those their Original Powers to others, in Trust, for the Benefit of the Community, yet the Rights themselves are reserved by the People, and cannot be absolutely parted with by the People to those Persons who are employed to conduct the Business of the State.”

    It continues, “That the Constitution of England is held by the King, Lords, and Commons, and other Officers appointed by the People, in Trust, for the Benefit of the People; and though these Trustees may regulate and improve the Constitution, yet they cannot alter or subvert it without committing Treason against the Nation . . . That Magna Charta, or THE GREAT CHARTER OF THE LIBERTIES OF ENGLAND, . . . the Constitution of England, which are in and by them respectively declared . . ."

    " . . . the Office of KING of England was not instituted by the People merely as an Office of Profit and Honour to the King, but he was so appointed as chief Trustee and Guardian of the Constitution and Rights of the People; and that important and laborious personal Duties are annexed to the Regal Office, the Objects of which are, to promote the Good of the People, and preserve their Rights in full Vigour from Innovation and Corruption . . . That it is the Duty of the King to preserve the Constitution of England and the Rights of the People against every incroachment; and, in order to enforce that Duty, the [Coronation] Oath is required to be taken by every King on Accession to the Throne of Great Britain.”

    “That is the Right and the bounden Duty of the People to punish all Traitors against the Nation.”


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  18. Then clearly you have better judgement than the smart monkeys in the Labour leadership.....
     
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