British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. i know i know, but there must be so much to say regarding stabilty in the UK. i thaught it wise to give him a head start. not that he normally needs any encouragement
     
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  2. @Loz will be delighted. This is his kind of sticking it to the man from seat of his VW Group owned motorbike
     
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  3. Which market standard?

    Have you considered that it frees up some farmland to produce Biofuels ?

    On the one hand you say that the EU are terrible negotiators and make deals like the alleged bad one above and then you bemoan that their negotiators are far better than our negotiators wrt to BREXIT. which one is it?
     
  4. whose?
     
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  5. I was going to, but couldn't be bothered. I knew I could rely on you noobs. :)
     
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  6. My bad
     
  7. I think it's more if you look beyond the shores and into the eu and what is going on there, you tend to understand why so many wanted to leave, if you avoid looking over the puddle as to ignore what is going on over there, you will always struggle to understand the vote
     
  8. That’s project fear
     
  9. It's funny because in all the brexit deal/no deal, not one eu official has said to ireland, don't worry chaps, forget the beef market you will loose, you can grow bio fuels, they didn't say it to the eu farmers when taking in all the new beef and poultry from south america either, nor so far when they expect to flood the eu with aussie beef and poultry.

    Interested in information, can you tell me where the offering to eu farmers decimated by flooding the markets of using that land for bio fuels has been mentioned?

    You sound like that cathy on channel 4 when she interviewed Peterson...so what your saying is?

    I did not say they were bad negotiators, I said they were selling out the eu farmers, not once, not twice but three times a lady, for cars.
     
  10. noob, we have neen looking long and hard at the EU for way longer than most in the UK. and before the press went rouge and about faced. 5years ago it was being sold as the be all and end all. 5years ago we needed it badly.
     
  11. four years ago fin when Cameron went to the eu and said look, the eu is changing course and going into the course of federalism and centerist, this is not something that sits easy with the U.K.. They offered cheese and crackers

    3 years ago, after the vote to leave the eu, the airwaves were full of eu politicians and commissioners saying the eu has lost it's way and we need to review who and what the eu is

    This year and the eu elections, you even saw verhofstadt saying whilst trying to get re-elected, the eu has let people down and needs to change, it should amaze no one that of the 28 countries, the largest party in the eu parliament is the brexit party

    In all those years, the eu has done next to nothing to take up even on their own words, let alone the concerns of member countries. They did replace Junker though, with the German armed forces minister who has a history of decades saying the eu needs to be ever more centralist and needs a eu army
     
  12. i guess they where to busy shafting the uk to be botherd with anything else..
     
  13. I have no idea what the EU is planning.

    You are assuming that Australian meat produced to EU standards will be cheaper than EU food.

    You are assuming people will want to buy it when it’s no where near as fresh

    You are assuming that the EU has not worked out a way of increasing financial yields for EU farmers

    You are assuming that Irish soil and climate is suitable for growing biofuels

    You are assuming that all the experts that the EU employs and that you complain about do nothing all day when the actually do plan this stuff out
     
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  14. You are cathy newman, and possibly the joker all in one

    I made no mention on the price other that it would be substantially cheaper as the tariffs are to be drastically reduced.

    Everything else is you going into some phsycotic lala land, check back through the posts this morning, it was you and no one else that first mentioned bio fuels

    as to increasing yields by eu farmers, think on this Mary, what will happen to eu farmers profits and livelyhoods if you suddenly increase the supply both from inside and from outside the eu ? will prices and profits go up or will prices and profits go down? and why are the eu doing this?

    Have you been into the woods again?
     
  15. “The masses cannot know. They must only believe.”
     
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  16. snp conference 2013? :D
     
  17. no, noob. brexiteer Richard Tice MEP,
     
  18. Cool, they all use the same jokes, see they all do have a common ground
     
  19. :D
    it wasnt actually him, but it was what he getting at
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    The neo-liberal creed that avers we have been granted too much democracy and it must be reeled back in finds the populace, a large section of it, has had enough of trusting its institutions that say – as the chairman of the Brexit party, Richard Tice MEP, said this day in a radio debate – “You’ve had your say. You vote once every four years”, or put another way, that’s your limit of participation.

    Tice called this ‘democracy at work’. His remark is a modern day equivalent of the 18th century dismissal of a free society: “The masses cannot know. They must only believe.”
     
  20. As I type , Jezza is giving his speech. Apart from the usual it's all trump and america, he said, we cannot have politicians like johnson picking and choosing which parts to abide by

    He seems to forget he is trying to cancel out completely a peoples majority democratic majority vote? What part of not abiding by democratic vote to leave, is not picking and choosing which votes you want to abide by.

    As to the masses cannot know? that might be a Scotchland thing, do they have the internet up there yet? :D
     
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