British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. The whole plan was for the BP Miller platform to inject CO2 from the Peterhead power station pipeline after end of production but the government funding disappeared and then so did the platform, a few concepts since to use the pipeline and Shell's Golden Eagle, as I remember, but I'm not aware of any further progress of late. Will probably go the way of Brexit ;)
     
  2. I'd buy it if it was made from supernatural spring water.
     
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  3. hmm, maybe. i did here sombody recently from westminsgrr say what they thaught would be a great idea to do with their oilfields and carbon capture. we will see.
     
  4. It comes and goes - probably happen some time but needs clean energy to make it worth while :upyeah:
     
  5. Ironically, it is better environmentally to leave or dispose in place than remove to land for scrapping. Difficulty with designs such as the concrete base storage ones is cleaning all the old oil out of the bottom of the tanks, however, removing such large structures from the seabed is particularly challenging with no facility installed originally to break the suction - will keep some people busy for a while
     
  6. and our pockets empty for a while longer. i think its as much as 70% of the clean up costs are to be met by the tax payer.
     
  7. I agreed with that, which now means you’re wrong :yum
     
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  8. well, theres a first..
     
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  9. I know I didn't but carry on :D
     
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  10. My limited understanding was the oil company's pay for decommissioning but it's written off as tax deductible, so more years of no tax when it kicks off big style, although many are arguing for leave in place or sink in deep water to create artificial reefs against the OSPAR recommendations
     
  11. yip, i'v heard the leave in place arguments. which sounds good to me if done safely
     
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  12. Over a certain tonnage (can't quite remember) you can cut off the piles above the surface and leave in place, smaller jackets have to be removed and piles cut below (5 metres I think) the surface. Pipelines will have to be removed or trenched and buried (most likely buried) and subsea structures removed.
    Problem is the big concrete base structures like Brent's, Ninian Central, Dunlin, Cormorant Alpha, etc. which are an engineering challenge to remove safely and not suited to subsea cutting due to the bases being storage tanks - these may end up being left in place with topsides removed - bit like the spare Frigg was - the one that went in on the piss so couldn't be used :bucktooth:
     
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  13. i aint bored of these yet.
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  14. Not me.This is a fight to the bitter end,and regardless of how this round finishes the bad feeling will linger for decades.
    When I've been accused of racism,xenophobia,stupidity,and everything else simply because I see a whole class of people who have suffered because of EU membership?
    When you look at unemployment figures rocketing since the Seventies,the fishing industry destroyed,EU bribes paid to UK manufacturers to shift industry overseas?
    Billions of pounds of UK taxes sent abroad while we are suffering "austerity"?
    Paying the second/third largest contributions to EU coffers,getting virtually nothing in return and watching EU citizens in other countries receiving generous UK child benefits and welfare without ever setting foot in the country?
    Prices rising due to EU tariffs,industry closing due to obeying rules not followed by other EU countries?
    But even worse than all this,that a fairly big percentage of British society does not give a flying fuck about their fellow British citizen,as long as THEY are all right...they never put forward anything good about the EU,but are like lightning,(!) on the trigger of abuse aimed at anyone who points out the negatives.
    I'm not only ashamed of our politicians and civil servants,I'm shocked at the level of total self-interest and the ,"I'm all right Jack",mentality.
    If this political farce has exposed anything,I now know why car drivers kill motorcyclists without a second thought and why judges let them off...I know why blatant distortion of the truth is allowed to be broadcast on/in the MSM and lapped up as truth by that selfish section of society...I now know why ,(even on here),some forum members try to shut down debates and threads if they don't agree with the direction of the conversation.
    The country has changed,and not in a nice way...the narrow minded,the selfish,the bigots,the anti-democrats,the pig-ignorant dictators,have stood in the way of democracy and tried to overturn it.Minority mob rule,supported by uniformed thugs and private fascist gangs like Antifa,cheered on by those who have feathered their nest.."break the heads of the working class,they have no right to the vote".
    17.4 million people are being betrayed.The next general election will show whether that number has grown.
    And if it has,all the right wing slurs and unwarranted abuse by the selfish,self-serving,self-interested,smug remoaners will come back to haunt them.
    We will ALL suffer of course,that is what history has taught some of us...when the pendulum swings too far in one direction,it will swing a lot further in the other,but tbh,it will be worth it just to see those smug little anti-democratic gits get their just rewards.
     
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  15. When I've been accused of racism,xenophobia,stupidity,and everything else simply because I see a whole class of people who have suffered because of EU membership?
    When you look at unemployment figures rocketing since the Seventies,the fishing industry destroyed,EU bribes paid to UK manufacturers to shift industry overseas?
    Billions of pounds of UK taxes sent abroad while we are suffering "austerity"?
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    first lines. uh huh...
    we had industry, we then discoverd oil that relied on that industry. the BRITISH TORYS closed them down. not the EU.
    i have lived on both the east coast and west in or around fishing comunitees. my workshop is next to a compony that makes dredging gear, i'v yet to meet a poor boat owner yet.
    half the quotas are owned by five families, they're the ones selling off those quotas to EU boats. one of the biggest conentration of millionairs in the UK are bassed in shetland. and are boat owners.
    so, why bother reading any further in to your rant?
     
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  16. That’s a blatant cut and paste the Finm :bucktooth:
     
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  17. I was just having a moment, they're all still a bunch of c**ts though :punch:
     
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  18. Whalsay to be precise and I can tell you a few stories about one of the owners who has a yellow boat...…. didn't hide his 'black' fish exploits in the end :bucktooth:
     
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