I think your gonna tell me it isn't. based on your experiences of posting a few rubber bands around the globe.
On many things thatcher was pro trade in working with the eu BUT she was also not at the cost of a country and it's nationality to become a european clone army
i think kippers are cocks. interesting noob. and I was just reading something similar. A while back I speculated that the EU Referendum was being used as a proxy war between two different factions within The Establishment. On one side, you had the Nativists: these are people who have – or at least believe they have – genuine pride and concern for the United Kingdom, a belief in their nation, and a willingness to put party-politics aside for what they perceive as the greater good. Despite their selfishness & arrogance, for whatever reason, they really do care about the UK’s international reputation, its territorial integrity, and its wealth. This is exemplified by the likes of David Cameron, Theresa May, John Major, and other pro-EU figures in the UK Government Party. . On the other side, you had the Conmen. These people might talk a big talk about the United Kingdom and Great Britain, or even let the mask slip & talk about England – but in truth, it’s all lip service to their voting base. They don’t care about the UK, its people, its borders, or even its wealth, even in a nominal sense: all they care about is themselves and their own coffers. This is clear to see in the likes of Boris Johnson, Jacob Rees-Mogg, Nigel Farage, and all the other squillionaires who look set to make themselves even more rich in the event of the UK leaving the EU without a deal. So what does this mean for Scottish Independence? I have a bold theory. . It’s no secret that one of the bonuses of government is the opportunity to make yourself obscenely wealthy. Thatcher, Major, Blair, Brown, Cameron – all absolutely rolling in it during and after their premierships, as are their closest Cabinet ministers and allies. But when it came to matters of territorial integrity and the UK’s influence, they were more than willing to sink billions into inefficient & ineffective projects for the sake of the UK’s standing in the international community. The same cannot be said for this government. They are more than willing to destroy the UK’s reputation, its economy, its very borders, so they can make themselves richer. . This isn’t a coup – it’s a heist. This is a supranational robbery aimed at draining the UK Treasury into their own pockets. They are working with fellow travellers in the US, Russia, and other countries throughout the world with an aim to commit the most lucrative theft in the history of humanity. There are horrific idealogies and political games at play, of course – but to the powers behind this, these are tools of manipulation to facilitate the heist, a useful distraction. It won’t matter to them if people are impoverished, or hurt, or killed, when the inevitable fire they’ve been tending for decades bursts into an inferno. So where does Scotland fit into all this? The Nativists – they of the “Go Home” vans, the “British Jobs for British Workers” policies, the “Britain is an extraordinary country” sentiment – were in power during the first Scottish Independence Referendum. As such, they knew the danger an independent Scotland posed to the diminished former UK’s world status: no more nuclear weapons, which means no more seat at the UN Security Council, which means Britain just isn’t “Great” anymore. What’s more, the loss of the Greenland-Iceland-Scotland Gap means that the UK would no longer have oversight over one of the most important gateways on the planet. As such, we could absolutely expect the Establishment to fight with every fibre of its being to stop Scottish Independence. . But they aren’t in control anymore, are they? For all the last two UK Prime Minister’s faults – and they are legion – you could tell that, on some level, they were concerned for the future of their “country,” the UK. Or, at least, they cared about the prestige, the power, and the influence of their “country,” if not the actual people. Boris Johnson and his Cabinet of Clowns don’t give the slightest damn about Britain. They don’t have an angstrom of the meagre patriotism displayed by Cameron & May. That is evident by their barely-concealed pursuit of the single most destructive event in the UK’s recent memory. . So. If Boris Johnson & his Cabinet don’t care about the UK, why should they care about Scotland being part of it? We know that the Conmen’s base are convinced that Scotland is a net beneficiary to the benevolent English taxpayer, & a significant minority don’t even want Scottish representation in the UK Cabinet. We know that the base is more than willing to sacrifice the very existence of the United Kingdom in order for the UK to leave the EU. We know that the Conmen are happy to say anything they like, regardless of its veracity or believability, to appeal to their base. And we know that the faction now controlling the direction of the UK are openly, freely, happily exploiting those sentiments. . Anything that the Conmen want for Scotland don’t necessarily require Scotland remaining part of the UK – as long as enough of their cronies are in positions of power in Scotland. Oil? They can do a deal with the likes of Sir Ian Wood to either circumvent the Scottish Government, or to get their millionaire representatives in instead. Whisky? They can rely on William Grant & Sons. Country Estates & their ilk. Vast country estates with grouse moors, deer forests, & lavish manor houses? Plenty of robber barons to fight their battles for them. It would never occur to them that an independent Scotland would dare go through with energy transformation, tax overhauls, and land reform that would utterly change the nation, because they think everyone’s as scheming, cold-hearted, and avaricious as they are. They think they can continue asset-stripping Scotland even in independence because they genuinely cannot comprehend that Scotland might actually do something different. Just as Sauron simply couldn’t forsee that the Free Peoples would choose to destroy a ring of ultimate power instead of using it against him, these people simply wouldn’t believe that Scotland could choose a better way. In short: the darkness cannot comprehend the light.
I try not to think historically, marxism is an ideology whereas capitalism has existed for centuries For good and bad depending on your standing in the world, but of late the world is changing and populism is the new ism which encompasses socialism more so than its alternatives. As Bob said " Times they are a changin" Gotta be worth a try innit.
But that’s a false distinction: I’ve seen the light. There is no light without darkness, nor darkness without light, and everything is really on a scale between the two boundaries.
I always have been Well call me shirley surprised but that wasn't your article was it, be honest now?
no, not that it needs to be said. but it does sit well with me. anyways, why are you here? why aint you glued to the telybox and watching the liberals while taking notes?
kinda like varying degrees of dull? or to put it in another way, noobs and the other blind followers posts?
How blind followers, we ask more questions? We also ask, why if it was supposed ease a party of just 160,000, did 17.4 million people vote to leave Why did over 16 million people think the vote was just advisory so was not legal, did they go and vote Why is a party with the term democrat in it, refusing to accept the largest vote turn out decision since ww2 why is the only party in the uk with "national" in their name, calling everyone else who didn't agree with them "nationalists
I suspect you're asking the wrong questions. lets try these. why did many of those 17mill think the EU are responsible for uncontrolled immigration and measures are not in place to remove them? why did many of those 17mill think the EU are responsible for their stagnating wages? why did many of those 17mill think the EU create their laws where even the mighty loz got his arse handed to him in a plate. why did many of those 17mill think that we are not the creators of all EU policy. why do many of those 17mill think things are gonna be better for them when they are handing back full control to those that care not a jot for them. let me give you a wee clue Murdoch, Redmond, Johnson bros.
So the Liberal Democrats have decided at Conference that: 1. Britain can’t leave the EC without a “Good” Deal. 2. There is no “Good” Deal available in their opinion. 3. Ergo, we cannot leave the EC. Glad that’s clear then. Wonder when they are going to change their party name to the “Elitist Dictators”?
