You should have a dig around for Paddy Ashdowns comments on “respecting the sovereign will if the people” in referenda. She is a total Zoomer.
Can’t we just not bother and wait for the inevitable shambles that will unfold? Sometimes people deserve what’s coming to them.
i did noob. you didnt like it. but let me say it this way, your now experiancing UK democrasy. its what you wanted, its what we have been telling you. meh. suck it up.
No fin you did not answer what would you say if the scots voted to leave and 3 years later you hadn't by others hands. For extreme remainers this is about winning and stopping brexit. Some of us have sad regularly that this goes on way beyond brexit. If Brexit does not go through, we will then be in a position where the people have a democratic majority vote and politicians could simple say, we do not want to accept the peoples majority democratic vote it as the people need to be protected from themselves. They would see the peoples last voice the people have in a democracy, their vote is now optional in regards to respecting it and majority decisions. This from the parliament seen as the creator of modern democracy The only time politicians would accept a peoples democratic majority vote is when they are seeking their £80k plus jobs as an mp. That is a path Erdogan would be proud of
if you say so. i would say this. The venom with which Brextremists have responded to this case is all the more ironic given that those who sought Brexit claimed that they were doing so in order to reestablish the sovereignty of the British Parliament. Yet now they are the ones arguing that the sovereignty of that parliament can be overruled by the Prime Minister. A Prime Minister who, let us not forget, does not command a majority in the House.
It’s not a bit like it at all as referenda are a once in a generation event and more importantly they are and always have been advisory, not binding. Moreover, Parliament is not trying to stop Brexit, just a no deal Brexit
Venom? We are simply asking the the democratic majority peoples vote, the whole house asked us to give and the future direction, to be honoured since when is it venomous to ask for a democratic vote to be acted upon?
and yet you know they made it incredibly clear that this vote would be acted upon, you tube is full of this statement and that is why 16 million remainers voted too When a government asks you to vote, says the result will be respected and carried out and then is blocked by the very same groups who said they would honour it, where do you think the line now is for mp's if they have shown to be able to overturn democratic votes? The issue with bercow is obvious if you are open minded. His role is the be the one true independent instead, he has umpired england versus australia whilst wearing an australian top. No sane mind can describe his actions as the benchmark of independence the role demands
Yawn. We’ve had this conversation. If you or others don’t like it, the solution, in a parliamentary democracy (as opposed to the fantasy island direct democracy that Brexiteers seem to think this country suddenly became) is to vote them out at the next election.
Hear hear. Let's have an election I say. Who could possibly block one given the gov't has no majority? No right thinking democrat, surely?
I genuinely chuckled at that. If they get the surrender treaty through, what do you think the next 3 (or more) years of haggling for a trade deal would look like? It would be more grinding us down with the aim of just staying in the EU, that's what.
And in return I genuinely chuckle that Leavers bought the idea that the EU would give us the “cake and eat it” deal that the Leave campaign promised (I believe the figure of “within 24 hours” was also mentioned) I’m astounded at the naivety of those who fell for that, because why should the EU give us a good deal and make it easy for us to leave? For one thing it would encourage dissatisfied elements within other countries to push for a Leave vote. Frankly, if I were the EU I would tell us to do one because our leaders and our press have behaved and are behaving disgracefully. I’m amazed at Leavers’ attitudes because they tend to be drawn from the most belligerently patriotic sections of the population but as far as I was aware, Britishness and the Bulldog Spirit is supposed to be about strength of character and stoicism, yet the constant refrain is a rather whining self pity about how we are the victims of the big bad EU accompanied by an immature and impatient stamping of the feet that almost regardless of the potentially dire consequences, they want it anyway. I find those traits almost as distasteful as the xenophobia which some display.
then you are an idiot but representative of the cause When people who now have evolved into leavers said maastericht is a wrong un, it turns the eu into a superstate, we were called anti european and seen as racist towards the eu..we have been proved right When blair opened the doors and said it should 6 to 12 thousand only, those same people said, don't do it, there are no safeguards, 3.5 million people extra......we have been proved right When Merkel offered to take milllions into the heart of 28 countries that had no internal borders, we shouted, don't do it, it will be the start of the end for the eu...we have been proved right When we said, clean break from day one as the eu will try and fuck us over rather than lose control of us..we have been proved right when middle class professionals such as mp's lawyers, doctors and yes even barristers, look down on young black kids as disposable because they sell cannabis and so are "not one of us because they do not do the lines of coke we do" and say hey, make drugs legal, people said no don't it...and look what is happening considering they almost always have gone to uni, they are some of the dumbest fucks on the planet and have glasses of dellusional roses and pink gin. Why should a young person respect the laws of the land when the house making them, does not even respect their own democracy?
