If the eu was as neutral as they claim they would not have senior members commenting/spouting off on a regular basis about what the U.K. should or shouldn’t do Nor encourage other member states to do the same Or have meetings with people in a position to influence proceedings in the U.K.
I believe the eu is now looking at the balkans for new member states, North Macedonia and Albania are the two being lined up next. Neither are expected to be countries that will put in more than they take out so increasing the pressure on the third of eu countries who do put more in than they take out. Albania particularly has substantial issues with organised crime, drugs and drug trafficking You can only expand your empires footprint so far before the payers say no more/run out of cash/their electorate vote them out. That won't be an issue for us anymore
You could also postulate that a club that only attracts rich members is a club for snobs, only out to better their individual positions in life and feck everyone else just a thought
if you look at it that way then so did america. how did the EU get involved in brexit? no you havent.
I'm sure if you wanted to then you would, you could certianly apply that to the immigration standards, however it is not a snobs club if you are constantly adding new members who take out more than the put in. It's noticeable those countries who are the majority funders of the eu, are seeing rises in anti eu sentiment.
Here's some light reading for you Fin https://www.legislation.gov.uk/eu-origin In my industry, the EU very nearly bought in regulations (replacing the good old BS standards) that threatened to put most UK producers out of business. The regulations that they introduce become so complex and sometimes unsuitable, because they have to satisfy all 28 members. Same complexity with trade deals.
You asked a question, now you sulk at the answer and retort with not much seriousness atal - and just sorted a large order of belts to a customer in Belgium
But it blocks / hinders the poorest Nations from trade, so what is you're point exactly? And if every time a new member joined a golf club from the local council estate and the current members had to pay the new members fees that club would last a long long time eh? (p.s. I don't play golf)
I think the EU take a longer and more nuanced view. True that accession countries will be passengers for a while but eventually their economies will get dragged up by way of trading within and via the EU. Also, the idea is that membership of the EU will, it’s hoped, bring their political and cultural norms more into line with “western” Europe, thus moderating the problems with graft, drugs, girls and guns so often associated with that region. Also, it’s easier to police and disrupt that naughtiness if the countries are members than if they’re not. Plus, some of those Balkan countries are of strategic/geo political value to the EU for a whole variety of reasons.
So you posted that "We were never the only country worried about Turkey joining and to suggest so has a wiff of remainer opportunism" and when I post six easy examples of the Leave campaign fear-mongering about Turkey before the Referendum, you swerve the answer and change the subject. As usual. I guess you get bonus points for consistency.
How many (not some on here but EU countries) have gone from being a taker to a giver, has it ever happened and will it? You can change culture? Is that not a bit rude, look what's happened throughout history with that one... Associated problems with gangster types - won't that give them free movement and a bigger market? Easier to police Gangsters than current residents? Mmmm
Most of the tripe you ply on here is made up and lies - but yes, there are dick heads on both sides, no one has ever argued that. We know your selfish stance so your words are basically corrupt so get some new material and try and be a bit more useful in the debate and not bitter and twisted due to your personal circumstance
exe, your sliping into that person again. btw no you havent. assisting in helping to bring about peace, and succeeding, with the help of america is "interfeering" in your eyes? hmm hmm.
Well ant, they applied to join the eu as a full candidate in 1999, some 20 years later, they are still not a member having continually failed to meet the 28 nations standards. This supports my post where I said the U.K. were not the only country that had concerns about turkey joining the eu. Your post just confirms you're a bellend, still. I hope that has made the position clearer to you
