British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. Reminds me of my childhood holiday trips with my cousins........

    Are we going or aren't we?

    How long before we get there?

    Are we nearly there, yet?

    I can see the sea!

    No you can't, that's the bloody sky!

    Well, why has it got a boat in it?

    It's not a boat, it's a roof.

    Are we there now?

    Is this where we are staying?

    I want to go home.

    :sob::sob::sob::sob::sob::sob::sob::sob::sob::sob::sob::sob::sob::sob::sob::sob::sob::sob:
     
  2. Just now - joint announcement from BoJob and Druncker. At the end:

    Druncker attempts to silence a heckler or someone shouting a question, BoJob quips, "Jean-Claude is the boss here".

    Nauseating.
     
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  3. why would he say that if he wasnt trying to appeal to his base and keep up the us(you v the EU pish?
    junker isn the boss, we(you) are.
     
  4. Will the new Blowjob accord (Mays Deal with lipstick) actually pass?
     
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  5. Interesting to watch this one :D effectively it is a 'pig with lipstick' but 'wolves in sheep's clothing' like Rees-Mogg are glorifying it. If it passes, why now will be the question
     
  6. The Backstop, as I said when it was revealed, was the "lizard's tail" - to be dropped if May's WA got in trouble. It was something unpalatable that could be used as a tool to say, "Hey, we got rid of the backstop, this is a good deal now!".

    The Deal will pass, if MPs feel that BoJob can circumvent the Benn Surrender Act. If MPs are confident that the BSA will hold, they will vote down the deal.
     
  7. JRM voted for WA3. He can shut his fool trap.
     
  8. should the EU be expected to know the constitutional arangements of the UK?
    it seams boris might of signed up to something illegal.
    If section 55 is repealed then according to the governments own briefing they are no longer upholding the constitutional integrity of the UK - and they aren't - they are breaching the Treaty of Union.
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    https://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog...he-proposed-brexit-deal-is-illegal-in-uk-law/
     
  9. I assume the May v2.0 deal still leaves us liable for bailing out the Euro whenever required, at least during the "transition period".

    Correct me if I'm wrong.
     
  10. There are many coulda woulda shoulda, possibilities but that is not the point nor the question.

    Do you think the Blowjob accord will pass?
     
  11. It's a crap shoot. I'd be guessing. Coin toss test says "No".

    Do you think it will pass?
     
  12. I don't - but I've been wrong before :D
     
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  13. No I think without the DUP -and as Boris sacked the 25 MP's - it won't go through. Rookie mistake by him losing his temper.

    There will be some trickery by Foggy Mogg & Blowjob in the next few days, then another Benn Law test, and finally a vote of no confidence which will pass and the election starts.

    Junker said poigniantly "what would be the point of an extension?". To which the answer might well be there is no government!

    Blowjob might have put himself in a corner. He surely will have to run an election bid on his deal now...
     
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  14. THE EU deal struck by Boris Johnson would be unlawful and should not be voted on by MPs, a new legal challenge submitted to the Court of Session argues.

    This morning it emerged that the EU and Prime Minister had come to an agreement on a new deal for Brexit ahead of key summit starting today in Brussels.

    Good Law Project founded Jolyon Maugham QC, who worked on the Cherry case against Johnson's prorogation of Parliament earlier this year, said he will submit the emergency challenge to Scotland's highest civil court.
     
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  15. You can argue that BoJob has been very clever here.

    He's set up a "deal" which, if Parliament votes against it, creates the strong narrative "Parliament vs BoJob & The People". That will bode well for his GE chances.
    Of course, it also risks a surge in Brexit Party support but I don't believe that the Tories view TBP as anything other than a side-show and a non-threat.

    I don't think BoJob is in a corner, nor do I think he ejected those worthless Remainer MPs as a result of temper. I don't believe that is a good read of the situation.
     
  16. In an election
    Blojob stands on his deal.
    Farage stands on No Deal
    Everyone else stands on referendum / remain

    It would appear the worst outcome from an election (from the opposition view) is likely to be Blojobs deal if he can win. The probable outcome of an election is a coalition of Remain.
     
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  17. How is it unlawful ?
     
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