This maybe long so most will ignore it I'm interested not only because of the impact but also I genuinely believe, even most of the eu know once we have re-aligned our services from paying the eu to do them, to us creating more employment to do the same services , we will do very well.. At the moment the stalemate is not about brexit but more about the smaller parties enjoying their brief "15 minutes" During the whole process, whilst extreme remainers have have not looked beyond the uk shores and "stopping brexit", I've been looking at french press/media, italian, spanish, Italian, Irish (both sides), etc etc and yes even the eu's own releases and home website and have often put them into the discussion for debate, with links for others to see the full article and not just a edited clip with no context as some extreme remainers have It's clear where some used the gfa as a club to stop the U.K. leaving the eu, the only worry for the eu was a trade barrier for the eu. This was rather proven just within a few days when johnson won his agreement and how quickly the eu changed. However, during the discussions if you looked at the irish press, both sides, it was felt that varadka was overplaying his hand and was getting a bit carried away. The reasons were two fold, some may not know that the republic was due a general election this year which they have suspended till brexit first phase is finished, so varadkar is very much lining his actions with a future election, you could say the same about the tories also, as you could of every party involved knowing a ge is due soon Some were also saying in those same media outlets by reading the comments section that some, felt this was a great time to have a hold over the U.K. in a way the republic felt the U.K. had historically held over the republic, kharma was mentioned often in these comments section. which leads me onto.... Within the U.K. itself, that same obsession with "sticking it to the tories" has taken hold I feel with the smaller parties that will never be in a U.K. government and boy do they intend to milk it for all of it's worth before a general election. Plyd cymru, Green, Lib Dems and yes the snp, mostly don't give a flying fuck about the best result for the U.K.. Two of the parties are preaching leaving the U.K. so helps their own cause and the rest are simply bathing in their "15 minutes" so to speak , of power So what we have now, as I've said before, is brexit, democratic peoples votes and real people, have largely been forgotten in parliament because they are all involved in a cock waiving contest which non of them apart from the government, seems to want to stop because they all know at some point it will.
You call it Cock waiving i call it trying to look out for the people. The only reason the government wants to stop it now is that they are running out of their hoodwinking tactics.
The same as May's plus the the re-tweaking ie workers rights which they wouldn't admit plus the ones we don't know about. Yeah real sneaky.
What an odious little man Bercow is!! A face I would never tire of punching!! Along with the rest of the scum posing as politicians!!
He can't accept todays business as it wasn't presented as such the order papers were changed on a point of order , not the done thing.
Bercow is quitting in three weeks or so. The woman is campaigning for his job and trying to get votes from Tories. Nothing is going to "happen" over Bercows conduct.
peanut peanut peanut. If we leave the EU, the people of the UK are at liberty to vote for a party that "protects the rights of workers", if they feel strongly about the issue. Staying within the dominion of the EU, though ... say that the current EU Commission places "workers' rights" at the top of the agenda. You get what you want, right? Sure. What if a subsequent EU Commission wants to revoke "workers' rights"? Who do you vote for then? Seriously, are Remainers thick or just deluded? Placing their lives in the hands of people they cannot ever vote for, or against, trusting in the bona fides of an unelected cadre ... SMDH.
of course they are peanut. soory, loz. like they have always done peewee, sorry loz. do you wanna talk about the distribution of wealth we have already. pr, oops loz.
Yeah, because Bercow always follows convention and has never been known to go against centuries of "the done thing".
There is some merit to what you are saying. However perhaps it should be considered against the actual political considerations of the UK? Over recent decades, the Tories put "workers considerations" low on their list, and have frequently reduced workers rights (to say the least). As they are in power a little over 50% of the time, this has had a profound effect. The EU have never pursued such a course and have always enshrined workers rights. So based upon that historical evidence, the question is whether the bird in hand is worth two in the bush?
in its smallest form yes. there are many taxs. not including regulatery alignment. the abillity to trade in a different more faverable way. and to make those decions for them selves.
The funny thing is, the benn act was created because they believed he was lying about getting a deal, now he has a deal that most it seems would support, they then slip a mickey in of the letwin amendment. As to the act in parliament this morning, it wasn't voted on was it? I believed only the letwin amendment had actually been voted on? As to the damaging workers right, in many ways U.K. governments has exceeded many within the eu countries and is more likely to be found in the top quarter of countries protecting workers rights than the rest of the eu
