a wee factoid. at the time of the creation of the uk, the population numbers where much closer. about 1 in 4. now 1 in 11. clearancies, wars and ecconomic models have all contributed to the disparity in numbers.
For me you either have MPs in Westminster who vote or you call yourself a country with influence. Trying to justify having both reflects badly on your country's moral fibre. TB
Another wee factoid there are currently 59 Scottish mp's places from a uk total of 650. Despite saying they do not get fair representation, they want to join the eu were they can only have 13 mep's out of 750 I dunno whose doing their maths
You won't get a referendum or brace of referendums on those terms and if you did, any Leave wins would be ignored. In the UK, we get governments who feel they are entitled to ignore the will of the people as expressed by referendum results and GE results based upon a party manifestos. We deserve such governments simply because we haven't bothered to teach them not to do that.
in a PR parliment where they vote in groups. i think the SNP are part of the biggest group. the EFA? or they where anyhoos.
But that relies on the snp playing well with others, not something it has a strong history of. They'd be there 5 minutes before cherry is in a court of some kind
do they not? hmm. in a parliment designed to avoid majority govs and yet they still get all that legisaltion through. i wonder how they managed to do that.
But..But..But, I want a referendum - right where’s my dancing gear. Do you think they would even ignore a legally binding referendum? I see what you mean, but all we can do is vote for who we think is best and if they don’t do what they said vote for someone else. How do we teach them otherwise ?
I think I've finally got it. I see Scotland as a grown up local authority constantly throwing temper tantrums. You see Scotland as a country that doesn't get the respect that it deserves. I admire your stamina and passion for pushing your views. TB
the north of england had the oppertunity a few years back. they chose not to. if you want one, may i sugest you campeign for one. it takes time tho, about 100years.
Excuse my ignorance, was the Scotland independence referendum legally binding ? Don’t think I’d last another 100 years
i see the scot gov as the place where we hold the uk gov to account. if throwing tantrums has secured free education, free prescriptions and the best NHS in the UK, free care for the elderly. a means of mitigating the worst of tory austerity. lower crime, ect ect ect and tailor policies that suit us, the place where we promote ourselvs abroad (check out how our exports increased since 2007. no brittish party did that before. . i see ourselvs as not bennifiting from a uk one size fits all ecconomic and social model with leagal text that alows us to take a different road. . i see you lot as sleeping behind the wheel with no sign of waking up any time soon. you dream of temper tantrums because thats what you see in your politics. its all you have ever known.
MPs will ignore everything they can get away with. They'll feel they can get away with ignoring a legally binding referendum unless we teach them otherwise. Protesting through civil disobedience. Not paying Council Tax, income tax, not going to work, blocking roads, writing letters to MPs, phoning MPs, picketing government offices, disrupting everyday life and making the consequences of governmental disobedience worse for our leaders than the consequences of them doing as they are told. Unrealistic? Yes. Of course. And because we don't want to do what is required in order to teach our government how to behave, we get the government we deserve.
Perhaps we are heading towards those sort of protests. There has been similar protests I believe (parts of what you suggest anyway), don’t know if any have ever achieved their goal. recently I suppose extinction rebellion are trying, I wonder how successful that will be.
