British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. I imagine you would be better off asking Tina Turner?

     
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  2. The best school will depend heavily on what skill or benefits you're trying to judge them on

    Surely certain schools are better (as recorded in stats / exams / trophys) at certain subjects, sports, care of disabled and challenged etc etc

    It's likely there's a best school for a range of things.
     
  3. Good point. Given the recent past, the Tories seem to have decided upon Eton as a good place to select your leaders & senior ministers think: David Cameron, William Hague, Michael Gove, Jeremy Hunt, George Osbourne and Blojob. There also appears to be a preference for private school attendees with two thirds of Blojobs ministers having been to one. It was worse under Maggie when 91% of her cabinet went to a private school.

    Oxford too has a place in the preferences of all parties. Apart from Brown, every prime minister since 1937 who went to University has studied there.

    Privately educated MPs make up 15% of Labour MPs, and 45% of Tories. Given that only 6.5% of children are privately educated, it seems the 93.5% are not getting their fair share of opportunities.
     
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  4. I think you will find that neither Winston Churchill nor Jim Callaghan went to any university, let alone Oxford. Unless you count honorary doctorates conferred later in life ...
     
  5. Maggie herself of course did not attend a private school. She did however go to Oxford, to read Chemistry.
     
  6. My error and my appolgies. Also thanks. My post is duly corrected.

     
  7. Just to be pedantic Michael Gove did not go to Eton, he did go to Oxford
     
  8. Reuters of course well known to everyone to be horribly bias against Blojob - not!
     
    #44788 Jez900ie, Nov 18, 2019
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  9. i went to private school. vote fin. for fuckloads of free stuff :upyeah:
     
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  10. It wasn't private - it was approved ;)
     
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  11. :(
     
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  12. :D
    peasants.
     
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  13. I believe the questions were why is he relatable and how can people up and down the country relate to him? Difficult for any street cleaner to feel they are on the same level as any prime minister. You are not employed to be someones best buddy but funnily enough,he was relatable to the people in london for two terms and with almost every poll since becoming pm, has seen a higher poll by the people, than corbyn.
     
  14. I can help Al and for you, happy too.

    The best schools are those which give the students the best chances of moving forward as an adult in life.

    for some it is genuinely good schools like grammar schools were labour want to close them but not until their own kids have gone through them first :D

    For some, that maybe the highest grades, for some it would be an established name held highly in society

    to highlight the last one, most in here know an old suzuki for a couple of grand will do the exact same job as a ducati, but some like saying , I have a ducati in the same way some might say, I have a porche knowing full well a focus st would do many of the same day to day stuff.

    I've often wondered why so many deride named high level education but have no issue with other named over priced brand name items when they use them themselves:thinkingface:
     
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  15. It was Johnson that said he was a man of the people, relatable is probably an unfair question, but wouldn't someone wanting to be PM like everyone to believe he was 'on their side'.

    ( I just thought it was funny watching him try to answer the question :D)
     
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  16. Thanks.

    Do we insist that politicians come from these schools though ?

    Perhaps it would all work better if it was say 50/50 between 'well educated' politicians and politicians that know what it's like to live on minimum wage etc. :thinkingface:
     
  17. Well funnily enough, after the 2017 general election there was a report by the sutton trust in regards to education history/background of the newly elected house. The key facts are here and a link to the report

    • 29% of UK educated MPs are educated privately in the new 2017 parliament, compared to about 7% of the population. 52% went to comprehensive schools, and 17% to grammar schools.
    • The proportion of privately educated MPs is at a record low for years in which we have data.
    • Over one in ten of the privately educated MPs for whom we had data went to Eton.
    • 87% of MPs are UK university graduates, 24% went to Oxford or Cambridge, 30% went to non-Oxbridge Russell Group universities and 33% went to other universities in the UK. Approximately 10% of MPs hold a postgraduate qualification.
    • 45% of Conservative MPs were privately educated, down from 48% in 2015. 15% of 2017 Labour party MPs attended an independent school, down from 16% in 2015.

    https://www.suttontrust.com/researc...-privilege-the-mps-2017-education-background/
     
  18. Interesting, the majority are university educated, I do wonder how many have worked for minimum wage other than while at uni (or even then). Maybe it makes no difference.
     
  19. In a restaurant you get to choose from what is on the menu, not what goes on it. Politics is similar.
     
  20. Err...Not sure i get your point here.
     
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