When Labour in particular go on about oxbridge and the tories, only 24% of ALL mp's went oxbridge or to simplify this, tories with a degree is bad because they are the elite, every other parties mp's/leaders with a degree is the common man fighting their way up so is good
Oh. I see what you mean. The original point was that we don't insist the politicians all come from a university / 'best schools' background. I wonder what stops people from other backgrounds entering in to politics.
A report from the charity found that 29% of current MPs came from private schools. Just under half (45%) of the Conservative party MPs were privately educated, compared with 15% of the Labour party. The Sutton Trust founder and chairman, Sir Peter Lampl, said: “Social mobility – the potential for those to achieve success regardless of their background – remains low.
Party selection process will have a huge impact on this. Tories appear to choose far more privately educated candidates than Labour do. 45% of Tory MPs attended private schools. 6.5% of children attend private schools. The appears to be a huge bias in the Tory party to candidates that are from a certain "background" or "class".
Which would be weird as they have to pass their own constituency selection board before they pass anyone else. Are you saying their own parties are choosing uni candidates over non uni candidates? If you are, then labour, lib dems, snp, greens etc etc are being elitist in their own selection process's?
Perhaps <a href="https://www.ducatiforum.co.uk/threads/where-will-our-future-politicians-come-from.74178/">Where Will Our Future Politicians Come From?</a> is a more suitable thread to discuss it. I don't suppose anything will change but be nice to think (for me anyway) that more politicians came from a different background.
For as long as people vote for the Tory priviledged class, and don't question why the Tories choose from the private schools above all other candidates, nothing will change. That is evident by looking at their actual actions. The Tories are urging the Turkeys to vote for Christmas. The Turkeys are doing so. Some Turkeys are demanding the date is brought forward.
If grammar schools then cambridge and oxford are the training grounds of the eltie so you cannot trust them, would you trust this person They passed the 11 plus examination and gained entry to Reigate Grammar School, then a voluntary aid school. They then studied law at the university of Leeds and graduated with a first class bachelor of laws (LLB) degree in 1985. They then undertook post graduate studies at st edmunds hall Oxford and graduated from the University of Oxford with a bachelor of civil law degree in 1986
would you say Edinburgh university fin, is one of scotlands elite universities? If so how would you view a tory mp coming through this elite university and how would you view a snp politician also coming from that university for the elite ?
No one reasonable would discriminate against anyone on the basis oif their schooling. Everyone reasonable would expect all social groups, educational backgrounds, minorities, gender to be treated evenly. Why do private school kids who make up 6.5% of the children get 45% of Tory MP roles? Why don't the other 96.5% get a better sucess rate? They do with Labour.
So anyone coming from a scottish elitist university is not to be trusted unless it's someone like this perhaps who did come through the very same scottish elitist university
i said if they joined todays tory party (after having a first class education and therefor no excuse) they are not to be trusted.
Okay so based on the last few pages Elitist universities are ....elite and bad when a tory attends Elitist universities are....great and not elitist when every other parties people gets a degree from them cool, good to know
Not at all. You, for some reason (convieniently) cannot understand what is being written. Great thing about you Nob - consistency.
