British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. you don’t even know what the British Empire he is referring to is.

    he is right but I won’t bother telling you why
     
  2. the hubris is strong in this one


    5th largest economy.......FFS
     
  3. Calm down :bucktooth:
     
  4. you going to stop buying Ducati’s then?
     
  5. which probably explains why I have no interest in watching it. I get enough of the oppositions opinions already. I wont be watching it.
     
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  6. Calm down :bucktooth:
     
  7. I have stopped buying Ducati’s in February this year, I thought I had stopped the year before o_O
     
  8. its fine. i'm not angry. just disappointed.
     
  9. Fin, genuine question

    Down here it's not unusual to have lib dem majority council which you would think is odd given so few people trust having lib dem mp's.

    My question is, do you think Scots like having a local council so to speak(i.e, snp devolved government) but do not trust them enough to be their only government which might explain the indi 1 vote?
     
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  10. ignoring the obvious condescending part of your post, which is a widespread view on your side of the boarder. (not because you're genetically thick, you're just educated that way) Scots voted for independence. roughly 54%. about 10% of our population are English born, 500k. a good proportion of them are pensioners. 80% of them voted no. (and for Brexit) everybody living here legally at the age of 16 and over could vote in 2014. almost all voted no. with the conversations i'm having, that will be reversed in the next reff.
    Now, as an aside, just think if we had a Nationalist of the English variety leading our Country. with the support of the press as yours do, you know Farrage, Gov, Bojo, May ect, can you imagine the hay they would of attempted to make with those stats?
     
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  11. yip, the last thing Westminster needs is a population learning its history. but fuck it. in for a penny and all that.
     
  12. It's not really about the population learning it's history, I'm sure many do already and those that don't have had the ability to learn already but chose not to. But that's just it, it's history, not exactly glowing on all counts but equally not exactly the faults of those alive today.

    So acknowledged wrong doing of the past is one thing, I don't think anyone feels different, but making it manifesto seems to be bringing up bad feelings unnecessarily in my view and likely many years of legal claims
     
  13. Could be good for relations with other countries, a good starting point saying sorry ?
     
  14. If reviewing the history of the UK, perhaps we should start with apologies and reparations for the Anglo Saxon invasion, followed by the Viking raids and settlement, then the invasion by the Norman vikings..........

    Once you start down that line, where does it end?
     
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  15. Good point.

    Start with the most recent and work back from there ?
     
  16. There would be quite a few things to consider before getting back to UK colonialism then as the British Empire was pretty much wound up seventy years ago, and the UKs involvement in the slave trade long before that!
     
  17. Ok, but would it hurt to say sorry for a start.
     
  18. Saying sorry for historic wrongs is absolutely fine, but this doesn't sound like it'll be left there:

    The policy blueprint, due to be published on Thursday, proposes a review of the “legacies” of UK imperialism and human rights abuses under British rule across the globe, HuffPost UK can reveal.


    The wording of the pledge is understood to be broad, but campaigners have long demanded justice for those who suffered due to Britain’s conquests overseas, as well as its separate role in the slave trade.
     
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