British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. It's a fekkin huge body of water, likely visible from space (of the great wall of China....)?
     
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  2. Seemed to work quite well for the Jews historically :thinkingface:
     
  3. What? no monster? false advertising cheeky rascals :D
     
  4. Labour and jews is a bit of a sore subject at the moment
     
  5. well feck me, the tory apologist lecturing us in the "we and me". and society. what ever next.
    right or wrong, people have become v,suspicious of government agencies. (private companys) motivs and performance. i'm against it. but it wont be that that stops me voting.
     
  6. There's huge costs associated with every worthwhile thing. Is it worthwhile having Driver ID? Passports? Does anyone think voter ID would be cheap? Is it simply not worthwhile ensuring fair and honest elections? People have to believe that elections are free and fair - is paying for that confidence worthwhile?

    The cost of investigating non-compliance of Income Tax historically has outweighed the direct tax take from such investigations. Is it simply not worthwhile investigating tax evasion?

    As for the extent of voter fraud in this country, I have before now declined to address your assertions but no longer.
    With no current or effective means of preventing or detecting voter fraud in the UK, exactly how much fraud would you expect to come to light? It's not like people own up to it, is it?

    Or are you saying that "266 cases" represents the full extent of the potential problem here?

    Your easy dismissal of the issue of voter fraud is very, very Leftist of you. Your assertion of paranoia is cheap and insulting. Your logic leaves much to be desired.

    Aside from all that, Jez ... how are you doing?
     
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  7. Oh look its the snp apologist :D

    It's a peculiar world that if a policeman asks you personally to prove who you are, it's seen as state intervention, but when asked to confirm who you are for a shopping on line account knowing your details will be shared with anyone, that's okay?
     
  8. 2 tory candidates a 1 lib suspended after it took a scotish paper to expose them for ant jewish remarks in the last two days. from the National.
    THE TORIES in Aberdeen are standing by Ryan Houghton, despite his suspension for “unacceptable” comments on the Holocaust.

    Opposition leaders on the city council have said he should at least be sacked from his role as the senior business manager in the ruling Tory, Aberdeen Labour and independent administration.

    On Tuesday night, the co-leader of the city council, Douglas Lumsden – who is also the Tory Westminster candidate in Aberdeen South – said Houghton would remain a member of the party’s group on the local authority while investigations take place.
    Bizarrely, Houghton’s suspension means that 11 of Aberdeen’s 44 councillors have now been suspended by their national parties.

    The nine Labour members remain in limbo after going into coalition with the Tories.

    While Tory councillor Alan Donnelly is currently facing charges of sexual harassment.

    The Tories were also forced to suspend a second candidate over antisemitic remarks yesterday.
     
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  9. Its correct procedure I believe in most walks of life to suspend someone whilst an allegation is investigated

    3 years and still being investigated by the equalities and human rights comission is a bit more than a one off problem within the party

    Aberdeen folk are a bit odd anyway :D
     
  10. If there was evidence to show there was a problem with voter fraud, a propotionate response would be correct.

    I think your arguement re Income Tax is incomplete and flawed.

    The "assertions" re voter fraud are not mine per se. They are based on goverment and police findings. What are your ideas on voter fraud based on?

    I am very well thankyou, and see you are the same.
     
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  11. That surely must be a record!
     
  12. its not the same. there may well be a time that it will be required, but when you look at the amount of investigations and convictions in relation to voting fraud its just bollox, playing in to the fears built up by right wing groups and the usual press.
     
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  13. What exactly is wrong with showing you have a right to something?
     
  14. You never mentioned a monster? :thinkingface:
     
  15. I see a perfectly timed trial in Scotland has started, with the accused being as his normal defiant self.
    Perhaps we'll get to see what drove the real face of the SNP over the coming weeks.
    I'm sure madam crankie will do her best to distance herself, but I'm sure it will damage her/their image in the lead up to the 12th December.
     
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  16. the numbers? not realy. just the tip of the iceburgh.
    the fact that its reported? deffo.
     
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  17. You have a monster in there?
     
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