British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  3. very interesting and it shows it is not just the high cost drugs used for life long conditions which are issued from hospital pharmacies that are affected.

    So some treatments could go from £600,000 for a persons lifetime to £1.8m for a persons lifetime. All to line the pockets of Tory MPs who invest in certain pharmaceutical companies. And most people in this website are ok with that.
     
  4. A lot of crocodiles around
     
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  5. It also shows not a single bit of evidence that this is happening between the U.K. and U.S.

    The key word there is could, not it has or there any proof it is but could so is suggestive and not factual

    and all of a sudden that suggestive "could", now becomes fact if you have a an agenda to push

    No they are not, but they realise you just made it up and are talking bolloxs :D

    Judging by your posts, there's a few planks around too
     
  6. for all manner of reasons, I think it would benefit you greatly, if you were to pick a chronic disease which has he truck based therapy and join it’s Facebook. You welcome hope people in the USA have to dealWith the vagaries of insurance-based healthcare. You will also learn the vast place differentials between the cost of the same therapy in the UK and the USA. Because it is vast. The US government clearly wants to re-dressed this imbalance and fever of its job companies. You really should not tell someone who knows exactly what he’s talking about that they are wrong. Check out the Facebook groups, clean out your ears, open your rise and you will Liam drug companies are not interested in curing people they are interested in customers for life
     
  7. And most importantly you need to forget what the liar Johnson says about the meeting with the United States officials, because the president’s executive confirmed that drug pricing and market access were part of the discussions. That’s a fact. They were not asking to give discounts
     
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  8. is there anywhere in those documents where it says the U.K. government will sell the nhs or will open our markets to full price medication from the usa, yes or no will suffice?
     
  9. I know this, I KNOW THIS.......

    is it....IS IT....................NO? o_O
     
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  10. Cmon, the suspense is killing me :eyes:
     
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  11. The answer to NHS privatisation is - no. I have never said that.

    the answer to your second question is Yes and this is confirmed in documents From the presidents executive
     
  12. Nope nowhere does it say the u.k. will open its markets to u.s. pharma at full price, happy to corrected if you have that section of the scoping documents that says this???? I'll await your return :D
     
  13. How is it that insulin is so expensive when it’s inventors gave the patents away to keep it cheap?
     
  14. Is that in there too? can you have a look then and see where shergar is and did Elvis actually leave the building
     
  15. These "Scoping Discussions" held while May was PM, are not negotiations, just putting all the cards on the table to determine what the negotiations (to start post Brexit) will be working on and both parties red lines, aims, etc. Boris has made some pretty clear statements and will be held to account. Let's not convince ourselves that we are going to be spending £billions more, due to some weak arguments and deflective tactics that Labour are desperately throwing up.
     
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  16. I think you've just ground us down, to the point that we now just scroll over and ignore your posts of un-researched pub banter.

    Please feel free to Stay Calm and carry on, in the Indy Ref2 thread ;)
     
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  17. It's important to differentiate the purpose of the negotiations by BoJob - which are between the BoJob Government and the US on behalf of the UK - from the May negotiations, which were between the May Government and the UK, on behalf of the EU.
     
  18. I did look as I always do, and you seem to have not read what you posted. I say that because it points out despite being told since 2010 that we are about to sell everything nhs to states, it hasn't happened. But the key part of that article and it is an article AND NOT A GOVERNMENT PAPER, it highlights just how effective the NHS buying teams are and I quote

    In the UK, prices are dictated in part by National Institute for Health and Care Excellence (NICE) which has been successful in securing discounts for some of the costliest drugs.

    Single-payer government-run health services like the NHS are able to use their negotiating muscle to pay far lower prices than their fragmented insurance-based private American counterparts, to the fury of the US president.

    We have a very robust system because the nhs has tremendous buying power
     
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  19. In fact, such is the ability of the nhs buying teams that we even have a member in here who has benefited from the power of the nhs buying teams, you may know him

    If ever you needed an example of the nhs standing upto american pharma, you cannot get a better example
     
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