British Indy: What Happens Now?

chicken / egg ?

 

because you can't go to work on a chicken ?

 

oh look

 

My point port was that, if you are directly effected say as an employee, even more so in a industry that was heavily unionised, you could genuinely believe that forces in government reduced the rail service ability

But from the 60's on, it was all about freedom and the biggest freedom for families and individuals then was undoubtedly the car, so as to your chicken and the egg, the honest answer is probably people stopped using the trains so much as cars became cheaper, and with less people using the trains, even state run trains could not continue the subsidy if there is a massive drop in fare paying user numbers.

Look at travel today, I can fly from stansted to Edinburgh return for £57 and a travel time of 1:15 each way or, I can go by train the same journey, 14 hours round trip and £130 ifff and it's a big if, the unions aren't playing silly buggers and striking for the month of december

 

True would have sufficed.

 

The BMG shows a hope for labour however it is worth remembering before some jiz in their pants, the youguv one last week was a super one of over 100,000 people responding, the above BMG from the 24th is with 1,663 people

 

Acceptable reply, but hardly a solution in todays logistics transporting high volumes of peeps Train travel v Flight.

 

100,000 peeps polled 1,663 polled what figure sounds more creditable to you ? BTW has anyone been personally polled ?

 

Most polls are between 800-1400.

youguvs superpoll was done last g.e. also and pretty much got it right even down to constituency changes, personally I don't know anyone who does one but then I don't use facebook so haven't got 66 million friends to ask

Keep promoting the ones you like though port, gotta believe in something

 

that was the first one i came across, oh, i only believe in that big old yellow thing in the sky rising in the morning, safer that way.

 

Nope don't agree as from the point of privatisation, train usage took off after a steady decline. It more than doubled train usage at a time that car numbers were also going up. I think the conclusion has to be that the services once privatised, started to improve and attracted more people. Take another look at the graph.

 

I would agree that train usage for work journeys has increased, you only have to look at any train in the mornings.

I wonder though, if as figures suggest, the most train journeys are made to, across or from London. At the same time the congestion charge came in from 2003 and the huge rise in air travel through heathrow and gatwick so is train travel useage distorted by region?

 

I did my own poll today, based on party boards I saw outside houses while driving to the airport.

‘Don’t care / none of them’ will be PM soon.

 

Based on what's in peoples windows, father christmas might win

 

I love this. Were you not happy to include the revenues in your "look how good Scotland is financially we need independance" in brackets but not responsible for any fuck ups which other people should justifiably bail us out for.

TB

 

I'm not convinced this use of railways malarkey is so simple.

I haven't seen mention of Beeching decimating the railways in the 60s which slashed capacity for using the railways. Nor have I seen mention of dear old Maggie having a policy to put everything on the roads, especially goods.

So, once you take all the goods trains off the network, stop people using cars in London as well as buying houses there due to unaffordability and voila passenger numbers increase from 1995 when they were privatised. Not in my opinion because privatised railways are so fantastic.

TB