British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. so, what he said was, too many people from the EU are coming and treat the contry as their own.
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    to many people from the eu are coming and treat the country as their own.
    nope nothing very cool about that.
     
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  2. So you are agreeing with him and think it's cool, a lot of crime has been from Romanian gangs and jobless immigrants - people who come from anywhere should be welcome if they are not coming to thieve and sponge off the state. :cool::upyeah:
     
  3. too mant people from the EU come here and treat the contry as their own.
     
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  4. What he said was too many europeans came here without a job, now with the move to an australian points system, if people want to come and live here then it should be because they have employment to come too. I'm sure when we leave the eu, the eu will imply the same rules onto us

    It is very obvious what he means but hey, elections and twisting as you sometimes say fin.

    Apparently it's all the rage, many countries have come and live/study only if you have a job or uni placement
     
  5. to many people come here and treat the contry as their own.
    being part of the EU means people can go from anywhere to anywhere in the EU without a job. but they can be asked/forced to leave alreadyif they dont find work.
    the wording is very clear, it appeals to AirCon and other types.
     
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  6. OK he's a racist xenophobe. And your comment makes you one too. :)
     
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  7. being part of the EU means people can go from anywhere to anywhere in the EU without a job.

    Yes they can, however, we are leaving the eu and the movement of people so a new system will be in place. Highlighting one of the downfalls of the freedom of movement is not unreasonable although it doesn't matter anymore as we are leaving.

    but they can be asked/forced to leave alreadyif they dont find work.

    They can but rarely were due to the difficulty in finding them and then removing them. I would imagine other eu countries have the same rules that are rarely applied
     


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  9. I see what you mean exi about the boy on the floor. at first I thought, mmm someone on the floor, was this created buy corbins failed virgin seat campaign?

    The picture however is this one

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    and the sub header in the mirror was Jack was forced to sleep on the floor of Leeds General Infirmary because of a lack of beds - despite suffering pneumonia

    Despite to the right of him, was infact, a bed and he was admitted overnight and released at lunchtime. No Pneumonia I know lasts 14 hours
     
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  10. According to the BBC News website he had "suspected pneumonia" - their full story is here - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-50713236
     
  11. I wonder why he was laid on a coat with a chair positioned so close to his head, not convinced :thinkingface: looks staged with a Labour blanket thrown in for good measure :bucktooth:
     
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  12. Is this a "BBC story"?

    I like stories.
     
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  13. On another BBC news page I read that he did have a bed but then after 6 hours he was moved out of the bed onto the floor and his mum "fashioned a bed" from the coats and it was her that took the pic and posted it.
     
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  14. Tories ahead by 14% and
    Pound to euro exchange rate: Sterling 'gains ground' ahead of Thursday's general election
    THE POUND was up against the euro this morning, as sterling benefits from analysts predicting a Conservative win in the General Election on Thursday
     
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  15. Just as well seeing as you spin a few :upyeah:
     
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  16. And the FTSE 100 is currently down 7.93 points

    Edit - now 11.74 points down
     
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  18. I sincerely hope that you never need the services of the NHS (again)
     
  19. It won't surprise you to know I checked this through given the story has been picked up by the others after it appearing in the daily mirror. What I also tend to do is check the local papers as well where these type of stories start from

    Mirror https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/little-boy-pneumonia-forced-sleep-21053225
    Yorkshire evening post https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co...-forced-sleep-floor-lgi-due-lack-beds-1334909

    Mirror says he was admitted with pneumonia to a&e, YP says by the ladies own words, we didn't go the a&e, we went to the Paediatric Emergency Department.

    Mirror says after a few hours the bed he was on was taken from him and he was forced to sleep on the floor, the lady in the YP says, he was laying on the bed but the bed was needed so we were put in a clinical room were there was no bed and she describes it "like a cupboard

    Again the lady herself in the yp says "My son was forced to sleep on the floor."He just couldn't settle or get comfy, he said he wanted to lay down. "He was not able to settle, he kept sitting on the floor."Jack's coat was on the floor and he ended up laying on top of it."Jack - who was using an oxygen mask while laid on the floor - was diagnosed with Influenza A and Tonsillitis by doctors.

    The hospital said
    “Jack was quickly assessed upon arrival and seen in two different clinical treatment rooms in the Paediatric Emergency Department.

    “Within four hours a decision was made to admit Jack to our Children’s Assessment and Treatment (CAT) Unit for further monitoring overnight. Unfortunately, the unit was also experiencing exceptionally high levels of demand which meant that Jack was required to wait in the clinical treatment room in the Paediatric Emergency Department until a bed became available. Jack was admitted to the CAT Unit later that evening and was discharged home the following morning after a medical review."

    It would seem there has been some "poetic licence by" the mirror because if you look at the picture, the only one that shows him with oxygen laying on the floor, is right next to a bed

    More so it would appear, once seen by the paediatric team and assessed, he was allowed to rest there until an emergency came in and the paediatric team needed that assessment room, so the boy and his mum were moved into a consultation room with oxygen. She says there was no bed in it but the picture clearly shows one and despite her saying it was like a small cupboard. The boy could not rest properly on the chairs so you can see his jumper was laid on the floor first then his mothers hoodie? over the top of him

    if you read the mirror and yorkshire posts there are many parts that do not align and whilst I have no doubt the poor lad was poorly, what happened seems to get mixed up the higher up the foodchain of media the story went.
     
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  20. USA influence and Brexit uncertainty. . All will be fixed on Friday.
     
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