British Indy: What Happens Now? Maybe this. The EU will be unashamedly “political” and block the City of London’s access to European markets if Boris Johnson tries to exempt the UK from its laws. The City earns about £205bn a year from European demand in financial services. The so-called “equivalence” decision has been described as trade experts as vital for the UK’s financial services sector, which generates 11% of total government tax revenues. https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-citys-access-to-its-markets?CMP=share_btn_tw But then again, maybe not.
call me naïve but that wasn't and isn't a workable solution (re the many post regarding the legalities of joining the eu after departing the uk) the presentation of a paper suggesting what you would like is far from providing "England" with an option of leaving unopposed... perhaps had the remainers gone with what the majority voted for and not fought to undermine and weaken the hand of the uk in negotiations, these years later when the dust had settled, Scotland might be in a better position to negotiate its independence from the uk and find the dependence in the eu that it so desperately seeks... still find it hard to believe that Scotland really wants to be told what to do by the eu and think it more a bargaining chip for exciting the masses to seek independence from the uk...
They used the same threat at the beginning of brexit, until they pointed out many eu institutions, countries and business's rely on finance organised through London. Should the eu seek to restrict U.K's financial services by making them eu banned, then all of those loans would have to be recalled and paid up by the european countries, governments, financial institutions and business's, effectively collapsing the european continent. When they realised the self harm of this threat, the eu rarely repeated it again. Still if nothing else it helps to be the "fix" for the anti brexit junkies want to hear every now and again as their pilates calming moment. In truth though it's still just fighting something where there is no fight anymore
presenting paper from the scot gov isn't the same as returning an essay for a Modern studies higher. it was good enough for the UK gov to morph it into N/I with all the problems they have. but anyways. and I totally disagree with the "being told what to do". your describing our place (by consent) in the UK. but I am done arguing about what the EU does. that campaign is over. . maybes this maybes that. maybe just one more chance. I think we as a Nation, have run out of maybes.
Oh, so all the companies who hold those loans will give up the business instead of relocating to Paris or some other EU place and carrying on earning billions? Good to know.
yip, I think I caught a glance of Ursula saying the other day, No financial sector trade deal without, freedom of movement? we will see.
If the eu make U.K. financial services forboden do you honestly think they will all move to european countries? Hamburg tried that tactic didn't they half way through as did paris and next to feck all moved. You're fighting a battle that is already won. Your side tried this before the vote, during the vote, after the vote and feck all happened. Everyone else is moving forward apart from those few
I think we as a nation ran out of maybes a few years ago.. its just some couldn't see that... on the part of Scotland (this is just one guys thoughts) would it not be better to remain in the uk and fight to prove the a nation could make it without being in the eu? then use that as a precedence to seek independence from the uk in the future?
I don't think Ursula had a vote in Brexit noob. but they will vote to protect what they have. i'm sure of that.
Maybe you are right Noob . Though the financial folks still have a year to move, (plenty of time to do so), if they will lose out on deals which bring in £11billion in taxes so over £100billion in gross profit. The first CEO who said "Fcuk it, we're giving up the money and staying" would be the first one sacked.
i'v offered a solution to this before, I have ran it past a few people that could go with it which is essentially a form of federalism. move parliament north and make it PR. no unelected second house, all relevant civil services returns to the countries that pay for it. a veto for all the countries. its a more expensive form of gov, but what price representation?. all totally unworkable. mostly because England wont vote for federalism. especially considering our views on the EU.
England doesn't vote for federalism because they think they will be giving up controls they currently have over other parts of the Union.
and then you fall back into the predictable twaddle. Can I ask what facts you to show (a) because england won't vote for federalism and (b) where those facts based on asking all 4 nations and only england said no? I suspect that is opinion only? and without a single fact to support it Again though, it relies on enough saying, brexit should be voted on again and we know that isn't going to happen so for some it's just like they are sitting there complaining hair goes down the plug hole and so filling up the bath to see if it happens again
yip, bit I say those that seek to rule over the UK wont promote federalism beyond the next reff. we have heard it all before.
usual twaddle? how much talk of federalism have you had over the last 10years?. its new to you, sit back and learn something. the fedaralisem fairy reemerges every time support for indi rises another point
uk politicians (labour) raise federalism near daily now. have been for years. but I guess not in rUK.
No fin it doesn't, it is always in the mind of federalists as they see it as a way of bypassing a voting majority that would never vote for it. It's a high energy high input thing for so few people in the U.K. because hardly anyone is interested in it. you're trying to guild not a lily but a dandelion. In 20 days, the legal agreement will be signed. eu flags will come down in the U.K. and the U.K. flags will come down in the eu. Even with that finality in front of their eyes, the deluded will still continue to try and fight the 2016 election peoples majority, sad but true
