not me, just better together , former PM's and UK partys. yip, in 20 days, the condition will have been met.
Cool, see, all that extreme remainer nonsense saying we wouldn't trade with the eu anymore, shown to be nonsense 20 more days
if you have the right connections. how many brexiteers have applied for a passport in an EU country I wonder.
Applied for or said on twitter that they have applied for fin? I ask because I remember those who said they would leave the U.S. if Trump won, on twitter and also those who said again on twitter, if the U.K. leaves the eu, they would leave the U.K. I'm going to take a guess that most were just butt hurt twitterati that never left at all
I am very glad that the poisonous vitriol against Boris Johnson and Brexit from our media, has died right down. Even a certain tension in my own greater family (the Remainer wing) has dissipated. So far I'm happy with the way BJ and his team are conducting things and feel rather upbeat about our future. Scotland Independence - Why not wait at least 18 months to see how things progress outside the EU before pushing for the next referendum? Otherwise, we may not let you rejoin the UK once Scotland comes to terms with the unattractive EU membership terms (e.g. tight fiscal policy)
Jezz, when I look back at what the extreme remainers predicted, fresh from the world will end in 2012 because the mayans said so and the y2k'ers who said we were going back to pencil and paper, you'll forgive me if I suggest extreme remainers predictions are less likely than a labour government in the next decade.
yip, who was it that said you where gonna give up over 60bill of trade with us annualy?. other than your self that is.
You wait & see. Taking back control and Soveriegnty aren't going to bring you anything if it means the rich banking sector loses money. Enjoy the flags. Maybe hum Dam Busters that day?
The North-East and North-West of England don’t seem to think that they have ‘controls’ over the Union?
Are you saying that you believe the UK public have been given an opportunity by a main stream UK political party to support its pro Federal Britain policies?
They haven't been given the opportunity to decide if baked beans should be without farting power either, doesn't mean they want one
I wasn’t, but as you mention it, the Preamble to the Lib Dem Constitution says: ‘We ….. commit ourselves to the promotion of a democratic federal framework within which as much power as feasible is exercised by the nations and regions of the United Kingdom.’ They didn’t exactly get a landslide of support in the 2019 General Election though, did they?
An extract from the 2019 Lib Dem Manifesto: Power for the Nations and Regions Applies to: The people who best understand what the UK’s nations and regions need are those who live in them. However, the Conservative government has a terrible record at meeting the needs of the UK outside its heartlands in the south of England – this is most clear in the way that the Conservative government has excluded voices from the nations in the Brexit negotiations. Liberal Democrats want home rule for each of the nations of a strong, federal and united United Kingdom. We have a proud record of leading the way on giving greater powers to Scotland and Wales. We will not allow Brexit to reverse devolution and will oppose attempts to use Brexit to go back to the past when powers were hoarded at Westminster. We will champion a federal future for the UK. Our plans for a written, federal constitution will include a permanent Scottish Parliament and National Assembly for Wales and we will take forward practical steps to ensure that Scotland and Wales both have strong voices in the future of the family of nations. We will: Extend the involvement of the Scottish Government and Welsh Government in the development of UK-wide policy frameworks. Specifically include health and education departments of the Scottish and Welsh governments in UK policymaking on drug policy and student visas. Create a Joint Climate Council of the Nations to coordinate action to tackle the climate emergency. Improve joint ministerial work on new cross-cutting policies, such as the UK industrial strategy. Establish a dispute resolution process to resolve differences between the administrations Scotland In addition to the steps to ensure Scotland has a strong voice within the UK, we will: Work hard to ensure that Scotland remains a part of the United Kingdom. We will oppose a second independence referendum and oppose independence. Allocate to the Scottish Parliament all of the powers set out in the Scotland Act 2016, many of which have already been used by the Scottish Parliament, with others awaiting the request of the Scottish Government. Build on the recommendations of the Smith Commission by extending the accountability of UK-wide bodies such as the BBC and Ofgem to the Scottish Parliament. Continue to develop city deals in Scotland by bringing together all spheres of government. Review the UK excise duty structure to better support whisky exports. Scotland benefits from being inside the UK and EU single markets. Each is worth billions of pounds and supports tens of thousands of Scottish jobs. Under the Liberal Democrats inclusion in those single markets will continue. Wales In the 20 years since the National Assembly for Wales was created, we have proudly played our part in Wales’ devolution journey: 20 years of devolution has allowed the Welsh National Assembly to mature into a Welsh Parliament. Yet Brexit now threatens much of this progress. We recognise that stopping Brexit and protecting existing levels of devolution will not be enough to create the federal Britain that Wales needs to achieve its potential. We will complete the next stage of devolution in Wales by implementing the remaining Silk proposals and substantially reducing the number of powers reserved to Westminster. In addition to the steps to ensure Wales has a strong voice within the UK we will: Devolve Air Passenger Duty to put Wales on a fair playing field with Scotland and Northern Ireland and put Cardiff Airport on a fair playing field with regional airports in England. Create a distinct legal jurisdiction for Wales to reflect the growing divergence in law as a result of devolution. Devolve powers over youth justice, probation services, prisons and policing to allow Wales to create an effective, liberal, community-based approach to policing and tackling crime. We firmly believe Wales is best off as part of both the UK and the EU. Each union is worth billions of pounds to the Welsh economy and supports tens of thousands of jobs. For Wales, a federal UK will mean a truly equal family of nations, ensuring that every part of this union has a voice, backed up by real, meaningful devolution. We will work to create a Wales that is able to shape its own destiny as part of a strong United Kingdom playing a leading role within the EU. Northern Ireland We wish to see a permanently peaceful Northern Ireland, with stable devolved government and a truly shared society. Northern Ireland and its institutions rely on sharing and interdependence, but Brexit has already increased tensions and risks new divisions, barriers and friction. We will: Work constructively with the political parties in Northern Ireland and the Irish Government to urgently restore the devolved institutions. Support policies and initiatives that promote sharing over separation and counter the cost of division. Help to grow the economy in Northern Ireland, boost infrastructure and support local businesses. Funding Devolution The nations of the United Kingdom have long had different needs with regard to funding. The Liberal Democrats when in government delivered a substantial extension of financial powers to the nations of the UK and we will devolve further fiscal powers. To ensure reliable funding, we will retain the Barnett formula to adjust spending allocations across the UK. This will protect the individual nations’ budgets from external shocks. However, we recognise the findings of the Holtham Commission that the current formula underfunds Wales and will commission work to update this analysis. We will address the imbalance by immediately ensuring that the Barnett floor is set at a level that reflects the need for Wales to be funded fairly and seek over a parliament to increase the Welsh block grant to an equitable level. England Devolution of power to Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland has implications for the UK parliament and its dual role in legislating for England as well as the federal UK. Liberal Democrats support an English-only stage in legislation affecting England, so that English MPs can have a separate say on laws that only affect England. However, this should be on a proportional basis, genuinely reflecting the balance of opinion in England. In some areas of England there is a greater appetite for powers, but not every part of the country wants to move at the same speed and there cannot be a one-size fits-all approach. All areas should however have access to the same opportunities and mayoral authorities should not be ranked higher in terms of the powers with which they can be granted. We will enact permissive legislation to empower groups of authorities to come together to establish devolved governance – for example to a Cornish Assembly or a Yorkshire Parliament, building on the One Yorkshire campaign. We will proceed by consensus as far as possible but will not allow one local authority to veto a coherent proposal.
