Autocom power feed question

Discussion in 'Multistrada' started by Majvs, Apr 17, 2013.

  1. Hi all,
    Although a technical question I'll put it here as it relates to the Multi 1200.
    I've acquired a Autocom Active-7-Smart for a longish trip in the summer and I need to know how best to power the unit. It will be used with a Kenwood radio for bike to bike comms and music from my phone.
    The instructions state that the black lead should be attached to the negative battery terminal and the red to a switched supply eg ignition, rear brake light etc. Presumably this will switch off the unit when the engines off and avoid battery drain.
    So, I'm happy with the battery connection (as I've done with my Optimate leads) but I'm very wary about how the red lead should be connected, given the funny wiring that a Multi has.
    Ideally I don't want to hard wire the unit in at all as it will come out after the trip. So I was wondering if it can be powered from one of the two accessory sockets behind the riders saddle?
    As you may gather I'm a bit of a numpty :rolleyes: when it comes to bike electrics so a simple solution would be best.
    Anyone done it before or can advise?
    Grateful thanks in advance.
    Martyn S.
     
  2. Mine is spliced directly into the switched feed into the left side power socket. Powers on/off with ignition and works fine. Easy to remove when I get rid.
     
    #4 nsm3, Apr 18, 2013
    Last edited: Apr 18, 2013
  3. Chris,
    Now I've really confused. :rolleyes:
    I fancied your Hella plug solution but rather than send for one off E Bay as per your link I nipped into my local Maplins and bought one of theirs.
    It looks slightly different to the one on E Bay as there are a number of negative terminals round the neck rather than the one shown on the E Bay example, but I thought they would essentially be the same. Wrong 'cause much to my annoyance my Hella plug doesn't fit! :frown: It won't even come close to going in the socket so:
    - Are the sockets definitely Hella? In other words have you tried one yourself? or (more likely)
    - Have I bought the wrong type of Hella plug and need to get the one shown on E Bay?
    Regards,
     
  4. Can you post a picture of the one you have bought
     
  5. 1024x768_bestfit.jpg

    Nick, This is the offending Maplins item.

    1024x768_bestfit.jpg
     
  6. The end diameter looks too big, my adaptor one is 11mm dia and 20mm long ( this refers to the section tht goes into the socket)
     
    #8 Nik the greek, Apr 27, 2013
    Last edited: Apr 27, 2013
  7. Just measured mine and the dimensions are the same. 11mm diameter and 20mm long. Not sure whats going on here.:rolleyes:
     
  8. Thats proper strange, mine fits ok into both sides, a previous owner has not changed the sockets on the bike ?
     
  9. No, it was bought new by me. I'll drag it out out the garage into the daylight and have a good look to see what the problem might be. Cheers
     
  10. Now I've had a proper look and with much fiddling I was about to give up when the bloody thing fit in to the socket!
    Despite appearing completely symmetrical the plug would only fit in when held in one position. It was only by accident that I discovered this during one of my many probings! (much scope for ribald humour here! :biggrin:)
    So I'm able to confirm what everyone probably already knew - Hella plugs do fit. :rolleyes:
    To all those who took the time to humour me - thanks again.
     
  11. Do any of you guys using autocom / starcom exerience audio interference ?

    I have fitted autocom to mine tapping into the aux socket under the seat, using a Zumo 550 satnav too connected to the socket provided under the tank on the left side. Its all been on the bike since it was new, so 3 years now.
    I get break-through at higher revs, engine speed related, and sounds like its power line induced.
    I have already rerouted all the cables from the zumo so they don't run with the main loom.
    I am currently investigating using isolated power feeds rather than those from the loom.

    Just thought I'd ask, see if its just me, or I have extra sensitive ears ! :rolleyes::tongue:
     
  12. Yep, had to fit an inline filter to kill the noise but with the consequence that it's knocked the volume down too so that it's a bit too quiet.

    Since Autocom have been taken over their tech support has gone to pot, I've given up beating my head against a wall trying to find a solution or details of settings adjustment. Probably going to upgrade to a 660 or similar at some point.
     
  13. Thanks Doodle,
    Which filter, where from, and just to be clear, was this in the power or the audio line ?

    I had to fit the isolating box from autocom for the 550 speaker / mic leads which got rid of the ground loop.
    Fortunately not had much dealing with autocom since they were taken over, except for spare parts like mic foam covers.

    Fitting a filter in the supply is next, and if that doesn't work I'm going to try an isolated supply.
    Before I rerouted the audio cables I could hear what I think was either the fuel pump or the backlight for the display !
     
  14. Audio line, I fitted the isolation adaptor (#2254 I think).

    I may just switch to Bluetooth if I change nav units - I do have the Bluetooth adaptor fitted for my phone but it's the old one which doesn't do stereo I think.
     
  15. Go to Chainspeed for help. CHAINSPEED - Exclusive motorcycle products
    I bought autocom kit from them a few years ago and they have been great at advising on any probs
    when fitting or moving it to another bike etc. Very helpful folk.
     
  16. Get the Powerlet ones they fit perfectly and are much more compact. Top quality too

    Shop by Category - Powerlet Products
     
  17. "Fitting a filter in the supply is next, and if that doesn't work I'm going to try an isolated supply."

    John,

    Saw the quote above in your post from late May. I have the same problem. Did fitting the filter into the supply lead solve it?

    If it did, can you remember which make of filter you used?

    Thanks

    Richard
     
  18. Hi Richard,
    nope, the filter made bugger all difference.

    I did a bit of playing about. My audio leads from the satnav now come down the right side of the frame, so they are away from the main loom. This helped a bit.
    The biggest problem is actually from the abs ecu, which is under the seat (think its that one, might be the suspension one though. It is on the left side under the seat, rubber mounted and has a big plug on it at the front).
    You can actually hear it making a noise when you turn the bike on. Sounds similar to the fuel pump, but its not that.
    I unplugged each of them trying to locate the source of the interference, so know its the ecu and not the pump.
    I even powered the autocom from its own battery and unplugged the leads coming from the zumo to ensure it was isolated from any other source.

    I tried screening the ecu, and screening the autocom. Neither made any difference.

    If you want to experiment, plug your autocom in, stick your helmet on, and turn the bike on but dont start it. Then move the autocom unit about to hear the interference, and see how you get on.
    Mine is mounted to the right hand metal frame loop, which was the quietest place I could find.

    Hope that helps.
     
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