V4 V4s Build - From Start To Finish

Discussion in 'Panigale' started by Topolino, Feb 20, 2020.

  1. Ilmberger....again another name some may not have heard of but who have become increasingly popular over the years. I have cherry picked the CF parts I wanted, using a combination of Lieb Speed, Ilmberger, CDT Fullsix and Ducati Performance. Here was the fitting of the under-seat cover in conjunction with re-assembly of the under-tail compartment, rear light, seat lock and battery tender lead.

    Having seen a number of cases on other V4s, where stones have been flicked up by the rear wheel and cracked the rear light lens, I had a local specialist apply some PPF film to the entire lens, to hopefully minimize any potential future damage. Fitting the light is simplicity itself.

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    Always like to check authenticity

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    Number plate light/indicator fly lead. This is detachable from the main loom as it's the section that is replaced in the event you want to fit the DDA/GPS kit to your bike.

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    Again PPF film was applied to the entire panel to protect it from stone chips

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    Light temporarily removed for fitting of the under-seat cover. Alignment looks OK.

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    Rear end wiring complete. You can see the connector from the main loom, to the fly lead I mentioned earlier. In the next image, even this P-clip did not escape the stainless treatment.

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    Seat lock is as always a PITA to fit

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    Decided to run my tender lead up from where it connects to the diagnostics port under the seat, into the under-tail compartment for quick and easy access. It meant losing the pillion strap, but I'm never going to need that anyway! This tender lead will only ever need to be disconnected when a dealer lifts up the seat pad to connect up their system to the port plug.

    I used to remember the days when Ducati actually supplied you with a toolkit. Now you just get an allen key!

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  2. Love this thread. It's one of those things I'd love to do, but would never have the time, patience and money for. Great if you had a bike to ride and a show bike to look at.
    How long do you think it would take to strip and re-build if you were uninterrupted?
     
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  3. Stripping the bike down is a relatively quick process. Cleaning, bagging and labelling every single part is not. If I had everything to hand and no delays in terms of waiting on parts to come back from coating, online orders placed etc, ie everything to hand ready to go.....I'd say around 4 weeks. It could be done quicker but I am allowing for the fact that I am doing all this work on my own (except for removal or replacement of certain parts such as was the case for the swing arm and front frame components). In addition, some areas of the bike that are safety critical, you really need to take your time, as a mistake here can be very costly later down the line and I'm going to be riding the bike when it's finished, so I want to be sure it's 100% correct. However I am not so arrogant to assume I won't have overlooked something, however small that may be, so I always have my bikes checked over professionally when the build is complete and before I ride them.
     
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  4. Sticking with the ravages of stone debris, it always puzzled me why Ducati ever considered the exposed area of the fuel tank above the rear wheel was going to fare well. I don't like leaving anything to chance so added this to my shopping list. Again Peter pulls it out the bag. This is one of the few covers that extends up around the edges of the exposed tank, so no red 'peeps through' when viewed from underneath.

    PPF film added, as per the other items in this area.

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    The cover even features a closed cell foam edge strip so that it won't scratch the paint on the tank and a foil heat shield.

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    All the necessary hardware is, as usual, included

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    At least that gaping hole is no more.

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    As well as the bolts and washers you see here, Peter supplies semi-circular plates, that sit under the cover's lugs, between it and the Ilmberger panel below. This prevents fretting against the carbon and damage to the lugs, so they don't bend when tightened. I love his attention to detail.

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  5. About time the project had some wheels fitted. I managed to swap out my OZ Gass RA wheels from the 1299, so simply asked the dealer to change over the new V4S tyres onto these rims and my existing 1299 tyres onto the stock V4 rims for resale. While I was at it, now seemed a good enough time as any to fit an oversize rear hugger from CDT, which does away with the senseless cutout on the item Ducati sell for use with the full system. I also fitted a new front CF hugger (DP item that I had clear coated). This will have PPF film applied to the leading edges, once the bodywork is fitted.


    At least this version should keep most of the road muck away from the rear suspension and under tail area (wishful thinking I know!)

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    Not a huge fan of Ducati's answer to cable management here, so I may end up fashioning a neater solution for this soon

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    Love these wheels.

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    Front wheel and DP hugger fitted along with Brembo Goldline 330mm discs, stainless steel disc and caliper mounting bolts, banjo bolts and caliper bleed nipples and finally CNC Racing caliper spacers.

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    Front wheel speed sensor and shim stack

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  6. This is awesome, might I ask what your profession is? Just a guess that if you also go about your day job with this level of rigidity that your probably pretty mega at it.
     
  7. Agree wholeheartedly with this.

    Just one question @Topolino - do you have a (much) younger sister? :)
     
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  8. For my sins, a commercial offshore helicopter pilot for the last 29 years. Have ridden bikes since I was 16 years old and always had a soft spot for Ducatis, since I first bought one in 1996.

    No, she's slightly older than I am!
     
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  9. Yeah this explains a lot, I bet you’ve tried to strip your chopper down at some point lol
     
  10. Toppo gigio for prime minister I say! I honestly can’t remember the last time I was this impressed with someone’s skill level and attention to detail! My cap is truly doffed!
     
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  11. Dammit. I thought I might have found my dream girl! :worried:
     
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  12. I'm loving this thread. I don't have OCD but really like that all those cheap fasteners were replaced with superior ones.
    Not such a fan of carbon fibre as you are but I'm sure the end result will be just what your heart desires, and I'm keen to see the rest of the build and of course the end result.
    It's so nice to see intricate work done well.
    As an aside on that theme, are you a fan of The Repair Shop? I really like that too.
    PS. I used to be a Company Man on oil rigs and did many years in the North Sea. Maybe you flew me a few times.
     
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  13. With the 'back-end' almost complete, it was time to focus on the front subframe, the remainder of the wiring, instrumentation and lighting. Up until this point, no power had been applied to the bike, and with so many sensors disconnected and disturbed, plus some additions and modifications to the original loom, it was always going to be a heart-in-the-mouth moment that everything worked as described, when I turned on the ignition. I wasn't planning to run the bike at this stage (that would have to wait until the fuel tank was back on), just check the basics functioned as intended.

    First step was to re-install the two part 6-axis Bosch IMU accelerometer with new fasteners. It's important not to apply any power to this unit until it is in it's correct orientation on the bike, else I am reliably informed, it can throw it out of kilter.

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    Instrument panel re-fitted. You can also see the "silent-block" as Ducati call them, rubber dampers that help locate the 2 IMU units onto the subframe.

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    The two leads from the bar-end indicators in the centre of this image, are routed underneath the top of the subframe and will connect to the loom just as the original OEM mirrors/indicators did. Under the top yoke, you can also see the white connector that will eventually connect to the electronic steering damper

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    I applied a "Speedo-Angels" anti-glare film to the face of the instrument panel, partly to, as the name suggests, reduce glare but also to prevent scratches. It's easily removed and replaced if needs be.

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    The plastic instrument cover on the V4 is normally a one-piece moulding with enough give that it can be bent into position as it sits astride the sub-frame casting. Owing to this, there just isn't the scope to make it in a single arrangement, so it comes in three pieces, with an additional three parts supplied as part of the kit, two that bolt through the subframe into the nose fairing (mirror caps) and a GPS blanking plug.

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    GPS blanking plug

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    Mirror caps and blanking plug

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    Side panels of the instrument cover kit

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    The side panels need to be fitted first

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    These are then sandwiched between the subframe and the main front cover

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  14. This build is well within the realms of anyone with a degree of patience, time, the right tools and confidence in their abilities.

    Thanks for your comments. Though there are other equally detailed and very many better builds than mine on this forum and elsewhere online. I may well have taken you to work at some point. I have watched an episode or two of the Repair Shop, though I have to admit I am truly hooked on "Project Binky". Those guys are unbelievably skillful, craftsmen in their own right.
     
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  15. Owing to the proposed paint scheme, the exposed subframe where it meets the nose fairing, is not in keeping with what I want to achieve. Thankfully Lieb Speed have an answer for that......

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    As with all things from Peter Lieb's company, they are so meticulously planned out, even down to the packaging. The kit included the two carbon covers, adhesive, bonding panels (not shown here) and a 'Scotchbrite' pad.

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    Bonding panels are attached to the subframe and the area bound by the white lines is roughened up using the "Scotchbrite" pad to give the adhesive a good key

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    Next, the adhesive is applied

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    Finally the covers are pressed into place and the adhesive allowed to cure

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    I have already ordered the Gel "Ducati" domed sticker that will go on the centre of the front panel, as per the OEM plastic part

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  16. I always scoffed at screen guards on the dash - until I scratched one at Dover when I innocently put my leather gloves on the top of the forks and one of them slid down onto the dash. I’ve no idea how a leather glove scratched the screen, but it did. Now I use a SpeedoAngel too!
     
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  17. With the headlight and the remainder of the wiring finished (well almost, as I have yet to fit the Multimedia module), the steering damper now on plus a few other bits and pieces, the bike is starting to resemble a Panigale as opposed to a collection of parts. There is still a lot of work to do at this point (May 2019), so I thought I would get some of the ancilliary stuff out the way first such as the tail tidy, temporarily fitting the fuel tank and new cap (so I could run the bike), rear sprocket/carrier, LH silencer and the seat. Time to crack on....

    The tank is only on the bike temporarily as it will be coming off again for paintwork, but I obviously need it in situ to test run the engine.

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    I transferred the fuel cap over from the 1299

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    Always thought it odd that Ducati should choose to date the tank in this way - 24/04/18 in my case

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    Tank/seat pad bracket in place

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    Once again, I apologize for the slight discontinuity in these photos as there are obviously parts on here that I have not yet covered or that appear to no longer be fitted! However I am sure you get the general idea. This was taken shortly before we moved house, hence the plethora of boxes in the background

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    Evototech tail tidy, not much to say here except for anyone who's unsure of the assembly process, their instructions might prove inadequate.

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    I ended up having to shim the mounting bracket, in order to get the assembly to sit dead level on the bike. If there is one thing I hate, it's crooked number plates. I may end up swapping out the rear indicators for some Kellerman items but for now these will suffice.

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    Always handy to know someone with a hydraulic press to fit the cush-drive rubbers

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    I used to be a Renthal convert for many years but the aluminium sprockets just don't seem to fair well even with regular maintenance. I've been a fan of SuperSprox ever since, as you get the best of both worlds. A light aluminium central core, with a hardened steel toothed ring, topped off with a CNC racing billet carrier. First lashings of titanium on the bike, sprocket nuts and axle nut.

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  18. You can also use "SunTek" film which has a memory feature in that it will reform to a flat surface if indented or scratched. TBH any protection is better than none, as these screens are prone to damage. I also cover mine up in direct sunlight when parked for a while in hot weather, as I have seen a few have partial screen failures as a result of the heat.
     
  19. As timelines go, the thread has now taken us up to around June/July of 2019 so far. I should explain that we moved in July last year and the bike went into storage on the 18th of that month, pending the building of our new garage which is due to start in March 2020 and will take 12 weeks to complete, so I've not seen or touched the bike in over 6 months! I am hopeful that I can resume the build in late June, but who knows! Here are some more photos in the meantime. I'll add in a few images of some of the smaller jobs I carried out as well as some of the parts yet to be fitted in the interim.

    Since I was always intending to change out the rear sets on the bike, I knew the Bonamici offerings I had settled on, needed to have a pressure switch fitted, which drew my attention to the connection on the main loom for it. The way it was orientated seemed a perfect place to collect moisture, so I decided to break out my trusty toolkit and fit a rubber TYCO AMP boot. These tools enable you to extract the pins from the connector which once off, allowed me to slip the boot over the two connector pins, then re-assemble afterwards.

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    Another of Peter Lieb's creations. This is the only carbon cover on the market, where someone has gone to the extent of manufacturing a decal and lacquering over the key legends.

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    Cover is held in place by two, two-tone shouldered bolts, courtesy of DesmoWorld in Germany

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    If you been reading this thread from the beginning, you will remember the caps I showed you. Here is one of them in situ. I primarily fitted them as I didn't want the lock stops marring the paint on the front frame, where they contact it on full lock.

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  20. A small selection of parts yet to go on the bike. I've got dozens more in boxes, also in storage, that I have yet to unpack, so if I get the time I'll fire off a few more photos, but for now we've reached close to 300 photos on this thread and an impasse for now until bricks and mortar appear, in order to house this project. As you can imagine, I'm itching to carry on with it but it's out of my hands at the moment. I'll be back with more updates as and when..........to be continued

    Bonamici rear sets. I will be swapping out all the bolts shown here, for polished stainless steel items.

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    Made up my own plug and play brake line pressure switch. Tygon tubing will replace the stock Brembo kit

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    Going to switch out the one-piece conical titanium nut on the rear wheel (axle side) for this AELLA two piece affair

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    Front sprocket cover

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