I have just started looking at companies that providetraining on tracks, in the uk. I have done a handful of track days and have thebug; however I want to learn the right way instead of picking up bad habits andtrying to correct them at a later stage. I always enter into the novice groupand on most outings can keep up if not pass most. I want to move up to the nextgroup but I am not confident on doing this just yet, I cannot get my knee downyet, even though with my long legs, in theory I should be closer to theground!!! So i have been looking the following and reading about them, i have my opinionand if anyone has had any firsthand experience with these companies or anyother suggestions would be greatly appreciated. California Superbike School British Superbike School Rapid Training
How about Mike (Spike) Edwards he does 121 training Mike 'Spike' Edwards - Commercial Road Racing Coach
I wish id done CSS instead of doing the Walker and Haslam schools last year. Saying that, I had great fun on both days and I learnt a little more on the Haslam day. The Club MSV chaps are very good as well, but dont go into as much detail as CSS (no classrooms for example) Im still thinking of doing CSS this year, its just a case of finding the funds at the moment :smile:
Did a couple of the CSS days last year and I can highly recommend them. Chose them on reputation and wasn't disappointed.
I have done CSS levels one to four, as I was in your position too and wanted to learn how to ride track without taking 5 years to pick up the basics. It's not cheap, but it was highly effective, well managed and cut out years of learning. Want to know what's also cheap (if bloody cheesy)? A copy of Keith Codes "twist of the wrist vol2" or the video that goes with it. It's unwatchably awful acting, but it tells you all the CSS school will do and is probably 20 quid! Most people I know who did CSS school enjoyed it and the staff were great when I was there.
Following MTB...read it, learn 1 step at a time, practice every time you ride until 2nd nature then hit the track. Some suit self learning, I did ok, where as others need to be 'told' whats happening as they are not self-aware enough to realise whats really going on Depending what level are at now, 1-2-1 coaching with Mike Edwards is expensive but most say decent value
Rapid Training were good, but as someone said, not in the UK this year for track. CSS are my punt for a best bet. I have done level one twice and level two.
Well, did you know most track day organisers have instructors on hand for free. I've used them, and wouldn't be ashamed to again, especially if theres an area i cant get right. If you're already up to speed in the novice group the intermediate should be no problem, maybe easier as you wont have to worry about overtaking slower riders. The faster guys in inters will find there own way round you so dont worry first few times out. As for getting your knew down, i wouldn't worry about that either, concentrate on your corner entry, apex and exit and then the faster you get you'll find knee down just happens. Most important thing is to enjoy it.
Yes I do speak to them whenever i can, i find sometimes they seem to be too busy within there own croud to really take the time to explain and help out. I managed to get my hands on the "Twist of the wrist" CD so will watch that. CSS seam to have a mixed views and either you get along with them or you don't. However there have been alot more positive comments than negative and the negative is not in relation to their training but more the people themselves, again this may be a conflict of personalities. I am going to ring CSS and have a chat, thing I might go down this route.
Watch the bid first and read the books. Uou can get a great base from that alone and will tell you whether the CSs style is for you
Thats what I did...if it works, here is a lik to the outcome. Notice how quick the steering input is [FONT=.HelveticaNeueUI]http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=plcp&v=FrXMNCgB-k8 [/FONT] [FONT=.HelveticaNeueUI] [/FONT] [FONT=.HelveticaNeueUI]Makes a world of difference[/FONT]
Yes, watch the vid, and although almost unwatchably cheesy, it has a lot of really good stuff in there and it is good to remind yourself of those things before you get out on track - and then try and apply them. Particularly throttle roll on and the two step turn in.... I might dig out my copy again and watch it (if I can bear the two new riders acting that are followed through the film!) to remind me before track season starts....... although I do have to track prep the bike this weekend so not sure I have much spare time left over as I haven't started anything yet!
Youtube is your friend, I have downloaded a load of clips with Andy Ibbot giving the tuition in the core components, 20 mins and done.
Bradders, I hear you, but you need to experience the full version of the TOTW video, those don't count! Nothing like cheesy enough. The full video is a cracker for acting. Probably a -10/10! But within it is interesting stuff....
Lol yeah I have it somewhere, not as bad as the Haslam school one; an hr of ads and 30 mins of actual info...altho TWOTW is verysimilar from memory Superbike School - Episode 1 - YouTube