Ladies & Genitals Just thought i would put up a little post after fitting and running my 2012 MTS 1200 with the Termignoni full system. Looked at quite a few options of de cat systems, power commanders and other electronic devices but settled on the full Termi. When I purchased my Multi S Sport new last Sept (2012) Ducati very kindly out of the goodness of their heart gave me a carbon stubby Termi, tinted screen and carbon front mudguard (one can never have enough tastefull carbon on ones Ducati). I removed the stubby Termi and sold it on ebay, with cash in hand I made my way to the very nice chaps in M&S Motorcycles Newcastle whom I have known since the begining of time, they did me a cracking deal on the full system. Fitting of the exhaust wasn't much of an issue (apart from the front header pipe requiring a bit of heave Ho to get into place) but the ECU was a little tinker, fitting the ECU is made much easier by removing the whole beak assy in one go (this is quite straight forward and not at all difficult). Anyway took 4.5 hours in total. Some bullet points on the system and the running of the bike. Without the baffles it's very loud, haven't ran it with baffles in as I like the noise. Motorway cruising noise is fine, can hardly hear it until you gas it. Low speed running up to 3000rpm which before was poor to bad has improved, not perfect but a lot better. Bottom to mid range torque has improved quite considerably. The old system weighed as much as a baby elephant, a considerable weight loss. Fuel consumption jury is still out, at the moment no better or worse. It's melting the edge of the standard number plate which is annoying. I know it's probably been covered a million times before but i'm new here. Your thoughts, opinions, views would be nice. Cheers Stu
Number plate is standard, I think you can space the exhaust hanger to change the angle of the hot gasses... Or fit a smaller plate. If you're of a "larger" frame I've also seen the splash guard melt with the additional shock travel.
I have same zorst on my Multi, I fitted an aluminium plate same size as number plate but spaced off the plate about 1cm from each other. Number plate now ok and not melting! Fuel consumption is good but when in 'sport' mode and ridden keenly it does drop right down .
Found out more about the "race use" thingy. With the baffle on, technically the noise levels are within EU limits. However, as the baffle is removable and therefore not a permanent part of the exhaust, technically the exhaust itself is not road legal. So that is pretty much a legal copout from Termignoni. Inclusion of the baffle will make it legit. Now I better find the dam thing before I travel to Europe...
The "For race use only" is engraved in the inlet end cap but is very shallow and mine easily polished out with a Dremel. :biggrin: I tried it without the baffle but if you crack the throttle open it is ear shatteringly loud - I put it back in. It runs well with the race ECU but pops and bangs a bit on the overrun, mainly, I think, due to leaking at the joints. I think I'll try stronger springs. The number plate hasn't melted yet so I mustn't be riding it hard enough :tongue:
yup, me also been loving the full exhaust since xmas (baffle is still 'under the seat' and never fitted) , the "mts racing" greeting the in morning and the generally more hooligan of a bike it is....had the bike for 2 years before able to buy the full termi and very pleased with it. bugs
OK cheers, I think that's what I'll do, it is in a fairly out of the way position so how much of a mess can I make? I think it is plenty loud enough with the baffle in when you open the throttle so the fact that I actually can not not figure how to remove the baffle is not too much of a problem :biggrin:
To get the baffle out; remove the M5 allen screw at the offside of the can near the rear. Using a spring hook or similar tool hooked into the metal bar inside the baffle pull to extract it. Mine is too tight to pull out so I use a large adjustable spanner, sliding it up the shank of the spring hook against the handle so that it acts like a slide hammer. That gets it out. :smile:
So did you fit it yrself? i'm waiting for mine to be delivered to M & S but living in the far far reaches of the uk (scottish highlands) i'm going to fit it myself to save travelling back to Noocassle, I just got back from my first service, rode like a hooligan all the way home, fantastic, i think i love this new bike ;-)
Yes fitted myself, got it last Thursday, waited about a week and a bit, kept pestering the guys in M&S, took 4.5 hours to fit. ECU is the fidliest bit to fit. Goes like stink although it was no slouch as standard. It's a new S Sport bought last Sept, loads of carbon plus the carbon front mudguard. Love it.
No baffles in by the way, took them out before it even started. Did the same with the wifes Monster Termis, baffles straight out. Yes it's loud and so is the wifes Monster but they are Ducati's for god's sake !
Yes, I fitted it myself too. It came with the bike but the PO had refitted the standard exhaust before selling it as he was considering selling the Termi system separately. Like Mr Hitler it took me a few hours. Getting at the ECU took a while. I also removed the cable from the exhaust valve motor so that it wouldn't corrode away or maybe drop off. That took an hour in itself. I'm in Scotland too, in Angus.
Guys, its a safety feature. For other careless road users to be more aware of our presence. The popping on overruns are fantastic when warning waiting traffic not to pull out of junctions. The pops are due to atmospheric detonation and is a common feature of low resistance systems. Go to a race meet and you will see what I mean. Nothing to do with joints or leaks. It is not a fault or defect. Termis did something extra for Rossi this year. Watch the Losail race this year and look out for the blue flames spurting out when 46 downshifts.
who do you think you are kidding mr hitler? if you think the termis done! ......sorry but couldn't resist. i've got the termi, i'm trying to get at those nuts on the rear exhaust flange at the head HOW DO YOU DO IT? do i have to take the rear end apart?
Hello You don't have too touch the rear cylinder manifold nuts, you leave the original in place, only the front manifold gets changed. Undo the front manifold nuts and remove the springs from the rear. Stu
thats it, Termi fitted, bit of a job and had to get a bit medaeval removing the old one cos i couldn't break the seal on the front pipe to the rear section. the new one fitted sweet and the up map is a brilliant invention. also fitted rizoma brake n clutch pots, they look awesome. thanks for the advice.
