Hi all. Hope you are all well especially With the pubs reopened. Recently my neutral light when in neutral has started flickering, but only when the engine is well and truly hot in (London)traffic, never after riding on the open road. so far the bike stays in neutral, but I am scared that it might jump out of neutral and that’s why the light is not sure if neutral is selected, or it’s just an electrical issue, with the gears not affected. I’m leaning more towards electrical gremlin as when it’s flickering if I touch the side stand the engine cuts out. strange it’s heat causing the issue and not rain?
Gear sensor is failing. Recalibration will/may help for a short time, but I’d get a new sensor fitted. Save a return trip to the workshop
Thanks Nelly. I did have the gear sensor replaced, I will have to see when, hopefully the part is still under warranty??. That time the gear position indicator was all over the place so the fuelling was too, so far fuelling seems to be ok? Any way with unemployment and all my volunteering I think the bike will have to carry on as is for the time being, also fuel sender No3 has gone too.
It will when it fails. Mine went last week and bike was almost unrideable. It throws a massive spanner into the ECU.
I don't know about the Skyhook ECU, but the model before has separate Spark and Fuel maps for each gear and cylinder. I've no idea what map it uses when in neutral, but I know it's bad as my bike was un-ridable. It's a real easy fix with the right socket set, you need an oxygen sensor type socket set, that can have a wire sticking out. The sensor is at the rear of the engine. It's easiest with with Exhaust and hugger off. Cost of the sensor was about £115 inc VAT/Delivery. I've no idea how you re-calibrate it? I just changed mine and it worked fine. I did put it into a independent Ducati shop near Weybridge, but he told me I needed a gearbox rebuild... Another reason I won't use him again. It's a variable resistor connected to a pin. I assume this pushes up against a cam that gets fatter as the gears go higher (based on my playing about).
I don't know what year the OP's bike is but when I had the 2010 Multi the neutral light became intermittent, sometimes it lit up sometimes it didn't. The dash display always indicated "N". There was never a problem with gear indication on the dash and never a problem with gear selection or finding neutral. I came to the conclusion that this was yet another dash light failure.
An MTS1200 has only one combined Neutral and Gear selected indicator. https://www.ducatiforum.co.uk/threads/dash-gear-indicator-error.3096/
" They all do that mate " Isn't that the stock answer ? ...... I remember the BMW K100S when it first came out , and it was frequently telling me that I was in 8th gear That plunger thingy is a natural collecting place for thick sticky gunge ..... ..... it is on my bike anyway , and it's always worse when the engine is hot .
I'm not sure what you mean. There is a gear indicator and a neutral light both in the dash, both activated by the same sensor. In my case all the gears showed correctly but the neutral light was intermittent.
Yep. Its the same sensor. I know because the circuit diagram shows a switch where you'd expect one, but on the MTS1200 it was never fitted, at least not to any I've ever seen. Pushing the rod in/out made the gears and the N symbol / LED light. That's if my memory is perfect from 8 years ago... probably unlikely.
On the Mutley it makes it unrideable as the sensor also feeds the ECU to select the correct spark/fuel maps.
Yes I have had the gear sensor fail before, it tells you you are in say third gear but you are in first and fuelling is all over the place. So far ran still displayed and fuelling fine. It just on a very hot urban engine heat eventually when placed in neutral the light starts flickering like in a disco . Once I am moving on the open road again it all settles down to normal.
