Can anyone advise if Termignoni up-map key can be purchased separately? I recently purchased a slightly used exhaust system and have found the key is for the 1200 DVT engine where I need a key for the 1260 engine. Your response will be appreciated.
Scott how much would you want for the up map key ? I have dvt 1200 with full system not termi but should still be ok to use it
You might struggle to find one, they havent sold them seperately AFAIK, so you may be better off looking at a RapidBike module.
I do not believe Ducati will support the Rapidbike module. I may have to return the Termi system if they cannot provide me with the correct mapping.
just saw this eBay listing ... no affiliation with the seller: Ducati Multistrada 1260 Up-Map for Full Termignoni System - P/N 96510851A (Fits: 2018 Ducati Multistrada 1260)
Ducati and Termignoni have a contractual agreement that the upmap is not available on a stand-alone basis. Moreover, the 1200 is a different engine than the 1260 where an upmap would not give you the proper A/F ratio. The biggest con in after-market exhaust sales is that most of the performance comes from the fuelling rebalance, not the exhaust pipe. Want proof, check this out where I also recently commented on the topic: https://www.ducati.ms/threads/up-map-dyno-results.731423/#post-7082220 @Scott Ward If you want to maintain (at a minimum) your stock performance, flash your ECU with Rexxer or get a Rapibike unit.
You don't need to convince me, I have changed fueling jets on more bikes than I care to think of when replacing my stock exhaust systems back in the day. Pipe would look and sound nice however no gains were experienced until strapped down on the dyno and replace hem jetting. FYI- I was able to locate a new Ducati up-map key for the 1260. I not only need the Termi map for performance but also to maintain the warranty on the bike. Ducati is a tough group to deal with when it comes to warranty issues and should the Multi drop or burn up a valve, without the up-map key installed they would hang their hat on this and not cover repairs. looks like your bike experienced some great gains with the slip-on and map. I always enjoy looking at dyno charts. It seems not many folks even know what a dynamometer is anymore.
@Scott Ward I read ya bro. BTW, that chart wasn’t mine but it's a great pre & post comparison. Should be a sticky to educate those that are buying pipes without an A/F tune. Notwithstanding, I have posted my stock 1260 Dyno results in the following thread (post #32 on page 2) https://www.ducatiforum.co.uk/threads/dyno-sheet-1260.63926/page-2
Respective dyno run. Back in the day, one could expect substantial gains with aftermarket exhaust systems, Kirker, Bassani, Vance and Hines, etc. Due to the huge advances with R&D of today's stock systems, it almost doesnt make sense to lay out the big bucks the admission of aftermarket systems although I am an old motor head and cannot leave well enough alone. In addition, the bike sounds so much better to me than what the stock system had even though it had the Termignoni slip on that comes as standard equipment on the Pikes Peak models. I will be putting on ebay to off set my costs for the titanium full on system installed. Hows the weather up there today? I used to visit Toronto each year for the CNE. Saw RUSH up there as well along with several Maple Leafs games. Im originally from Buffalo....
I purchased an upmap key separately for my 899. Got the key from a shop in Italy and the cable from BR Tuning in the UK; who are the UK importer for Termignoni.
Yes, I've had a Kerker exhaust (with jetted Mikunis) and remember quite well when Terry Vance and Byron Hines were winning pro-stock on Suzuki's while Cooley and Lawson were battling it out in the dawn of AMA Superbike. Not much to add for after-market exhaust performance these days. It's all about sound and maybe a bit of bling although the stock PP carbon unit is hard to beat on looks alone. About the weather: Today is nice but we've had quite a few 95F days lately here in Ottawa. Toronto is a bit cooler due to the lake effect. Btw, I’ve spent 20 years in Toronto. Good for work and the Great Lakes but not for riding. Ottawa is much better. Lots of parkways and twisty riverside drives. Moreover, we have a drop-dead gorgeous race track nestled in the woods of Calabogie.
