S4rs First Impressions

Discussion in 'Monster' started by bradders, Aug 23, 2020.

  1. Bit harsh. RSPCA will be round this afternoon..
     
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  2. I hope so too but the average life of an Ergal slipper clutch IME seems to be 12 to 15000 miles with the organic frictions. You can look to cut that by at least a third if it’s got the sintered frictions. Steel and Ergal really don’t make good bedfellows. Andy
     
  3. Your clutch is mucho noisy - all I could hear at the traffic lights :D
     
  4. Not a slipper then. Surprised given it didn’t give me any rear wheel locking unless the clutch was slipping thru wear??
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  5. Reckon worn out or some life in them yet? @RickyX @final_edition @andyb I can get a medium screwdriver in an a mill or so to spare

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  6. Shed loads left there, I've got way more than that on my 748.
    Might be worth taking the plates out though and having a good general clean round also make sure that there's no contamination on the inner plates.
     
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  7. Clearly don’t need it ;)

    But now wondering what the noise and feeling is
     
  8. Give it a damn good cleaning and see if that helps. I liked the noise BTW!! Proper Ducati rattle.
     
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  9. you know these answers as well as we do Paul! - you've got to go the whole hog and pull the plates now because that is looking ominous:- unless someone has purposely been running a low stack then there's a good chance you will find some friction plates "on the metal" when you take them out and examine. Could also find some irregular wear on plain plates if that brown staining is rust.
     
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  10. Been over 10 yrs since I piled one of these apart. Wet clutches all the way for me!! I stuck it all back in, as I didn’t fancy pulling them out tonight.

    Changed the plate online, and insurance, but can’t find my old plate! Damn.
     
  11. I stopped effing around with worn out clutches a while back - if it’s well knackered just buy a new, or suitably lovely second hand one from here.
     
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  12. Trouble is I have no idea if it’s worn.
     
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  13. Not sure what the plate stack height is for a standard clutch pack. Steels are nominally either 1.5mm, 1.5mm dished (has a dot punched into one of the tangs) or 2mm. The organic frictions I think are 3mm. Count the plates you have, add up the nominal thicknesses and then measure the actual stack height. The Bucci style of slipper packs are nominally about 37mm and are worn out at 35/36mm. Andy
     
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  14. Just checked the Red Barons book. It states the tolerance between the clutch housing and “teeth” of the driving discs is 0.6 mm. Once excessive wear is verified, buy new discs and housing.
    But, it also does say you don’t normally have to bother (EDIT bother checking) until the clutch starts slipping.
     
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  15. It was slipping on downward changes lol
     
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  16. Makes me wonder.....
     
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  17. Think I’d be changing it mate. I have a clutch holding tool you can borrow if you need one. The book does not give a stack height but a distortion tolerance per disc and refer to workshop manual for your specific model. Again, welcome to borrow if it helps.
    Do it over winter.
     
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