if it has certain guaranteed side effects like reversing pencil drop and giving you a full head of hair once more hey i’m first in the Queue... X
Corona virus is closely related to the common cold, they have been trying to come up with a cold vaccine for about 50 years, I, for one, am not holding my breath that any vaccine will a) be available soon or b) be effective.
I guess you are not happy that we have a basic safety net for people who fall on hard times and instead would only extend that courtesy to folk who have paid in a amount you deem enough? I add to my previous position that not only are we lucky you don't get a say in how your taxes are spent but even luckier you aren't in charge of setting the amounts people have to pay. God now's it's weighted in favour of the well of already.
As someone with multiple myeloma and low immunity catching any childhood disease and covid I run the risk of being hospitalised and potentially a poor outcome. After my stem cell transplant I have had childhood vaccines again that are not live as my immune system couldn’t cope with them. I cannot have the mumps measles and rubella vaccine as it is live so I rely on that people are being vaccinated. If the covid vaccination is live I won’t be able to have that either I’m reliant on the majority being vaccinated to protect me at the moment and I’m grateful to those who do so I have been in isolation since March and continue to be on the advice of my consultant. If I do have to go anywhere it needs to be covid safe as can be and strict social distancing. Would I have the vaccine, I don’t know, I would have to be assured that it wasn’t going to cause any detriment to my health. Would it work if all clinically extremely vulnerable etc are vaccinated but the majority were not or the majority were and the minority not I’m still on the fence right now
If a Covid vaccine were released tomorrow, that would mean it had not been properly tested for safety and effectiveness, and was being released as a political stunt. So no, I wouldn't be willing to take it. If a Covid vaccine were released in a few months time after completing a full and proper testing and verification process, then yes I would definitely want to take it. Generally speaking vaccines bring huge benefits in preventing diseases, but also entail some small risk of harm. The benefits vastly outweigh the harms. Unfortunately there are people who falsely deny the benefits and over-exaggerate the harms; there are also different people who falsely deny that harms are even possible. Thus do waters become muddied.
If a vaccine becomes available I will have it asap. My wife works for a large pharmaceutical company in a senior role so I might have a better insight how they develop vaccines. There are no short cuts that can or would be taken. So why is this vaccine possibly available sooner than expected. Money is the answer. Firstly governments around the world have given money to pharma to develop it. Secondly, as with any other medicine on the market, if you bring a new product to the market you get a 15 year monopoly on it and can charge whatever you want. So a vaccine that the whole world needs is like printing money. Saying that, the damages a company would have to pay if they acted negligent in testing any such vaccine and or releasing a unsafe product would be crippling them. There might be questions over how effective a vaccine is going to be but I have no doubt in my mind it will be as safe as any other vaccine out there.
Hmm, someone stands to make a huge amount of money from a Covid vaccine. No way they would try to cover up any wrong doing in getting it to the ‘market’ then.
Pharma companies are still there to make money for their shareholders and employees. Profit is not a dirty word. It allows investment too. Like this particular company that I have knowledge of is investing 1 billion pounds over a 5 year period to develop new cancer treatments. Their chances of success are estimated at 6 percent. Like it or not, someone is making money unless pharma gets nationalised. To suggest they would knowingly and deliberately endanger lives is frankly insulting to the industry and the people within it.
apologies, the second part was meant to be tongue in cheek, I should have used an emoji to indicate that. I understand what you’re saying, but can’t help being nervous about something that’s rushed through, even given the reasons you stated.
The government have been pushing through a law that enables the use of non licensed medication in the U.K. for a period of time.... a good friend of mines dad used to own one of the biggest U.K. pharmas. Some of the things he’s told me are alarming to be honest. Mainly about the government
Being nervous is natural. Imagine how nervous the vunerable people to death from CV19 are? Quite a comparison eh?
I’m not sure what your point is. Are you saying everyone should take the vaccine as soon as it’s ‘ready’ because the CV19 threat is higher ?
I havent heard of any such law and even if that is the case, certainly before the end of this year all drugs have to conform to EU regulations as a minimum so any domestic law that asks for lower standards is still superseded by EU law ( they set a minimum standard but you can of course have stricter standards domestically) In any case, most big Pharma are global companies so they wouldn't be interested in a product that can be used in the UK only ( 60 million of which judging by this poll 2 thirds either wouldn't want it or would be weary at least Isn't much of a market) as the American FDA won't lower their standards nor will the EU.
Not at all. I am saying just what I wrote. You said you'd be nervous to take a shot of vaccine. I said I wondered about the level of nervousness of people vunerable to death from Covid in comparison to that of people thinking about an injection.
It’s not about having an injection though, it’s what is being injected. Perhaps it could be argued that more is known about Covid than the potential vaccine.
It seems most of the people who don't want to be vaccinated are happy to take the risk of infection, are against any further lockdowns that damage the economy and would let nature take its course to achieve herd immunity. Vaccination carries a risk for a small number of people to get covid 19, it nullifies the need for further lockdowns and achieves herd immunity!
