I fail to understand why we should just deal with something we don't agree with. That is supposed to be the very basis of democracy. Don't like something and don't agree with it then you can refuse to accept it and work to change it. If you don't like that then maybe living in Russia or China would be more to your liking.
Precisely because we live in a democracy. What you going to do, work to rule, ban overtime, demonstrate in your own bubble. Use your vote next time around. Now can we get back to tax changes. Where are the bloomin mods when something goes off piste
If you buy good from abroad Vat is not payable in the country of origin. You might pay it there but are able to reclaim it at the border. Then you are supposed to pay it on the other side of the border at the rate of the destination country. That was always the case. In the single market it is paid by the seller in their country and that is it. Now we are out we have implemented a system where we require sellers abroad to have a HMRC VAT registration to be able to sell into the UK. So they have to file a TAX return in Britain as well as their own country. As far as I know we are the only country that has that requirement and charges sellers a fee for the pleasure. Big businesses had this arrangement for a while but it wasn't mandatory. The company my wife works for, which is a large multinational, does require their suppliers to be UK VAT registered.
17 million was not the majority, that’s how democracy works. If we all read the daily mail and watch the BBC, we will all be rocking in our chairs and sucking a soggy towel. The truth is we are out of the EU like it or not, it’s up to ALL of us to make it work.
I see this thread as a attempt to get to grips with the new way we buy and sell into a market and countries that so far we could just sell and buy from without any barriers. Now it turns out that the free trade deal is at best more difficult and at worst more expensive. That's not what we were told even a few weeks ago. Only because a desicion didn't go the way I wanted doesn't mean we should or have to stop making the argument. Are opposition parties in parliament just supposed to be quiet. Shut up you lost. That certainly isn't democracy. We are out of the EU. I always said it's going to be worse and on day 5 it already is worse. I will continue to make that argument and point out the things that got worse. Anybody who wants to point me to the benefits other than herring and blue passports fell free. I'm all ears.
OK, as a remainer I'll get behind it. Can you give me a rundown of what it is I'm supposed to get behind and perhaps a few good news stories to counter all the MSM doom mongering?
Well VAT yes. For good below 135 quid they have to pay UK VAT directly to HMRC. Above that they don't have to charge you VAT at all but you would have to pay it. The courier firms will do that for you for a fee.
Start another thread so those that want to throw stones at each other can do so whilst the rest of us try to understand what the new requirements are, so we can get on with our lives then Back to the original thread purpose then Understanding rule changes
Are you assuming authority over other posters on this thread so that you can steer it in the direction that you want to go? Not very democratic.
The rules for non EU countries were always like this. New is only the requirement for exporters to be UK VAT registered. I bought a few large items from China and I paid VAT and duty as well as the customs agents fees in the UK on arrival. My Chinese suppliers didn't have to be UK VAT registered. We had the privilege not to have to do any of that with 27 other nations and paid a fee as a country for it. Now we lost that and at the same time made our own VAT rules for all countries. Apart from the red tape for trading with the UK for European companies the big one is that online facilitators of sales are now required to pay VAT on the value of that sale. So a privat Sale on eBay from a seller in another country does now attract VAT. That may be a rule that the EU are also bringing in, I don't know but it has been mentioned but again, that applies only to third countries like us and not the single market.
The rules for non EU countries were always like this. New is only the requirement for exporters to be UK VAT registered. I bought a few large items from China and I paid VAT and duty as well as the customs agents fees in the UK on arrival. My Chinese suppliers didn't have to be UK VAT registered. We had the privilege not to have to do any of that with 27 other nations and paid a fee as a country for it. Now we lost that and at the same time made our own VAT rules for all countries. Apart from the red tape for trading with the UK for European companies the big one is that online facilitators of sales are now required to pay VAT on the value of that sale. So a privat Sale on eBay from a seller in another country does now attract VAT. That may be a rule that the EU are also bringing in, I don't know but it has been mentioned but again, that applies only to third countries like us and not the single market.
I don’t know if it a rule the EU are bringing in either. I have had a brief look and couldn’t find anything. My understanding was the idea was to ensure traders paid duty in the countries they traded in. May be a bad thing for individuals, but perhaps a good thing for the country as a whole.
I'd call paying the price advertised more transparent than paying a price and then having duty VAT and handling fee added later.
If I was a trader in the EU, trading freely with 27 countries with no problem, then the extra paperwork and cost to trade with one other would become a problem. That trader will have to register with HMRC, at a cost, do the paperwork for UK orders to reclaim the home country VAT at a cost and then to serve a market that is only 1/27th of my trade. Far easier to not trade with the UK or just charge much higher prices to the UK to cover my costs. Now that you are out of the EU it is perfectly legal for any company to have different prices for the UK as they used to with cars. Brits used to buy cars and bikes from the continent to import them due to that price difference.
One example of a seller I have previously bought from on eBay who now doesn't want to send to the UK. This listing was changed sometimes in the last few days as I had it saved for a while.
That’s not true tho, is it. We were always told children pass it on: but they are barely affected by it and better to keep old or vulnerable people away from kids. But aloe kids to keep on their education and have some form of early life.
