1200 Buying Advice

Mass Air Flow sensor, it regulates fuel/air mixture hence the poor mpg and popping/backfire on tick over, there are two of them, one for each cylinder and the fault code read by the software tells you which ones faulty. You can use the same software on the DVT models but I believe you can only read data and not reset faults or service lights. If you search there are threads on here of what leads to buy (£30ish) and where to download the software, just search for JPDiag.

Not owned a Ohlins multi so can’t comment but the skyhook is good and handy for me as the mrs joins me often so easy to switch to 2up plus luggage etc. Reported to be an even better system on the DVT models?

 

Nah Red. From what I can tell the 13-14 PP gets lighter wheels and a bit of carbon over the standard S model. I don’t think there’s anything else in it? Maybe a termi end can?

 

I think there was a silver option but also the grey/gun metal models, they might have been the GT spec, they are touring spec but with crash bars, fog lights, taller screen and bigger/wider panniers?

 

Just so you know the Twin spark engine doesn't make as much power as the pre Twin spark engine. Reason for this is the Twin spark has a lower compression than the earlier engine.
The extra spark plug accounts for most of that.

 

I had a Mivv Suono on my 2010 Multi, mainly as it was the least expensive full system at the time. I found the sound it gave rather harsh and a tad noisy. I also know of two Mivv end cans that shook themselves to pieces.
Note that this was several years ago so may not represent what MIVV are offering now.
I now have a 2015 DVT and I fitted an Arrows decat system to it. It is excellent, well made with a loudish but sonorous sound. Recommended.

 

Pp has a red frame and looks the better for it

 

May as well toss my hat into the ring. I have a 2012 first generation, single spark, S Touring that has electronic Ohlins. I have the Ohlins (after market) SCU that turns the electronic into a semi reactive suspension. IMO, this configuration out performs the generation of Sachs Skyhook you are looking at. Of the two pre DVT generation, the first generation, single spark engine is the easiest to tune. Not seen it mentioned so far but the valve service (every 15,000 miles) is expensive. Had mine since new, closing in on 40,000 miles although I chose to have the engine rebuilt after the horizontal cylinder started to wear more than the vertical cylinder, resulting in bottom tolerance compression. Subsequently in a recent post, that could have been explained by running too rich after an ECU remap which could have washed oil off the bores (conjecture but possible). Why did I choose to rebuild an 8 year old 30,000 plus mile engine ? It is my forever bike that has not been significantly bettered by the twin spark or the 1200 DVT. Andy

 

I had a 2013, base model. They were twinspark from 2013 onwards. Lights upgraded in 2013, very bright.
Personally, would shop around for a low miles well looked after base model. Change the rear shock for a quality unit and get the suspension setup. The remote adjuster is easy to reach on the move. That would be the best value for money. Andreani do a cartridge kit at reasonable money for the front end if it really needs fettling.
Heated grips fail often just before two years. Had mine replaced under warranty. Best bit about them is the neat design and wiring.
Corrosion and soft fasteners an issue. But agreat bike just the same and rather quick.
Regular clean or bypass the exhaust valve. Same with all bikes with exhaust valves, it is not just Ducati.
As with most bikes the biggest improvements in handling come from fitting decent tyres.

 

The first generation 1200 S came with electronic suspension that you set through the dash. If you wanted to go two up, you had to change the setting. Late 2012/early 2013, Ohlins came up with a replacement suspension control unit that adjusts the suspension as you are riding. It had to rely on the data the bike could give it instead of the later Sachs Skyhook that had added sensors to gather data. The manual Ohlins on the Pikes Peak (apart from one year when it was Sachs Skyhook) are great if you don’t need to change your settings that often. That said, compression and rebound are only the turn of a screw. Andy

 

Hi
I've had my 2013 PP for a year and a half now and its an absolutely fantastic bike does everything
Touring,scratching commuting the bike does it all.....
like you I wanted a PP expensive yes but for me worth it if you buy a multistrada with low mileage
Remember 15,000 miles is the big service so factor that in when you buy
Test ride when you can and I'm sure you will find something to suit your budget
Good luck and keep us all posted on your progress

 

Standard service annually or every 7500miles.
Valve service every 15000 miles (not time dependant)
Timing belts every 5yrs or 15000 miles

Prices vary on valve service cost, dealer prices vary, independent will be cheaper, if shims need replacing then that affects it, heard some remove bodywork etc and deliver the bike to reduce labour costs?
So can’t really put a price on it but expect a dealer to be £1000+

 

30,000km service belts (the expensive revision) and complete kit of chain, crown, and pinion original air filters, oil, etc etc updating and updating in official service a 2016 dvt, 900 euros cost, washed and collected and delivered at home