So Who’s Had Their Cv19 Vaccination And Which Did You Have?

Discussion in 'Lounge' started by El Toro, Feb 10, 2021.

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  1. Oxford-Astra Zeneca

    84 vote(s)
    73.0%
  2. Pfizer-Biontech

    25 vote(s)
    21.7%
  3. Moderna

    6 vote(s)
    5.2%
  1. If you are in an eligible group then you should of been contacted - as most people in my road have been. If you are in an eligible group and should of been contacted and have been missed then contact your local surgery and ask them. You may also be able to do this on the NHS web site. The whole process is specifically designed to stop people from jumping in and paying and thereby denying injections to people more needy than you. I am sure that there is an NHS number that you can ring.

    I qualified on age and my local surgery said don't call them as they will call me. They did and fixed up the appointment. I turn up on the allotted day and at the allotted time (well, well early as it happened) and got it done. I pay NI and feel that I got my money's worth. Can't fault the service and have zero belief that it would be better if offered privately so that those can afford to pay just jump right in and those that can't can go and get fooked.
     
  2. I have been contacted every time I go to book the jab the NHS falls on it’s arse, I’m not looking to jump the queue as I’m in the eligible group, in fact the age group has dropped further down the groups.

    Which of course means should I be given the means to procure the jab by paying no one is being denied the jab because I can pay. The only denial of service is from the NHS.
     
  3. Can't your local surgery help?
     


  4. I seem to be back in a Faithless era. Get up at 3AM thinking, "Why is it still dark?"

    Could blame the jab but this behaviour is not unknown to me.

    If I wasn't so feking tired, then would be tempted to go to the garage/workshop and resume my valve check work...
     
  5. I'm picking up the vibe you're a big Ursula fan? ;)

    I didn't mean a private equity, I meant that Az is not owned by a government, it is not a government facility, it's a plc and has share holders. Supply contracts are negotiated, that is fact whether you wish to accept that or not. No different to Pfizer, which again is not owned by a government, it is merely a company with a manufacturing facility located within the Eu (the eu is not a country BTW)

    The EU commission do not make vaccine, companies do, this is just reality.

    Regards AZ, The eu contract is weaker and is missing very specific details, a brief overview why can be found below:

    https://www.politico.eu/article/cor...ion-contract-astrazeneca-ties-hands-lawsuits/

    Further information on how the uk contract differs vs the eu contract can be found here, a notable snippet reads

    "This core difference, according to a lawyer familiar with the development of the U.K. text, can be chalked up to the fact that the contract sealed with London was written by people with significant experience of purchasing agreements, specifically drug-buying deals. The European Commission’s contract, by contrast, shows a lack of commercial common sense, in the lawyer’s view."

    https://www.politico.eu/article/the-key-differences-between-the-eu-and-uk-astrazeneca-contracts/

    It matters not one bit to me what side you take, or whether you take a side at all. Frankly it's all pointless because as I already made perfectly clear, the vaccines are tied up in supply contracts which were negotiated by governments with non government owned companies. They are then either hitting those supply terms outlined in the contract or they are not, if the latter the governments can then use whatever legal action they wish against the company failing to achieve the supply, and in the EUs case it would seem they don't really have much to go on based on the terms of their contract. That is just the way it is

    I'm not having a tit for tat UK vs EU battle, it's not a Brexit vs Remain thing, that's all history, it's done. But you cannot deny that the vaccine rollout in the EU has been a mess.

    It's not just the fact they were slower in supply negotiations, that alone isn't the main problem they faced, not everyone can negotiate at the same time. Instead various powerful member state country leaders when issued AZ vaccine supply decided to try and point score for their own political reasons and by doing so impeded their own rollout by reducing the confidence of their own citizens. Again, this isn't a brexit thing, this is just poor fucking leadership and the fallout of which is biting them on the arse. Mon dieu!

    https://www.cityam.com/four-in-ten-germans-and-french-see-astrazeneca-vaccine-as-unsafe/
     
    #326 damodici, Mar 19, 2021
    Last edited: Mar 19, 2021
  6. How long did you have to look until you found articles that matched your view?
     
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  7. Oh about 5 seconds, and oddly enough contracts aren't a view, they're contracts, ambiguity tends to be removed as a matter of point from contracts, it's kinda what they're for :upyeah:
     
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  8. "covenants without the sword are but words...":upyeah:
     
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  9. hmm, maybe thats what the extra nukes are for. to dismiss covenants when it suits?
     
  10. I thought it was already privately run in parts of the NHS
     
  11. Had the AZ jab a couple of weeks ago, mild flu like symptoms for a couple of days after.
     
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  12. I had the AZ first jab two weeks ago. No side effects
     
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  13. Just back from 1st jab. AZ. The whole shebang was very painless and slick. Got jabbed bang on time. :):upyeah:
     
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  14. No more postings at 3.55 am I promise! I believe that I am over it now and feel fecking great.! I will go and do my cycling now as I want the challenge. That's the 30 odd hours that others in my family had just hope that I am better with jab2!
     
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  15. MrsX and I just had our first jab. AZ.
    Feeling a bit light headed right now so we'll see how things progress.
     
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  16. AFAIK it’s around 3% of the NHS, might be the % that actually works. :confused:
     
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  17. My local surgery was contacted after they contacted me, was informed they hadn’t any vaccine. Chocolate fireguard springs to mind.

    In any case I’ve decided today not to waste any more of my time on this matter, thankyou for your input Perry.:)
     
  18. I've finally received two texts this week on the 17 / 19th regarding the vaccine jab, a friend has kindly just booked them up for the 25th & the second dose on the 10th of April, i don't reallly want it but what are the alternatives in life.:skull::D
     
  19. It was just if your local surgery could help with you booking the appointment at wherever. As I spend a lot of time in the waiting area of mine, I often overhear phone calls where people have not been able to book their appointment. The surgery then do it for them. They booked mine at my local hospital without me asking.
     
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