959 So My Track Bike Is Just About Finished!

Discussion in 'Panigale' started by LiveFast......, Jun 14, 2020.

  1. Also got the L/H clip on and a pair of CNC Racing flip up foot pegs
     
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  2. If no one wants those CNC Foot Pegs, how much you want for them? Could do with spares
     
  3. The fixed pair I bought were £75 I think. £45 posted any good? If the OP doesn’t want them then there yours. :upyeah:
     
  4. @JamieW. Sorry, my bad. They’re fixed too. :bucktooth:

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  5. Works for me! We will let the OP have first dibs if he has CNC rearsets. Also, fixed okay, they are just spares.
     
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  6. It’s just the left hand bar I need mate. Jamie can have the pegs - I like having the flip up’s so I’ll have to get some ordered at some point.

    How much would you want for it?
     
  7. Thanks for all the kind words and parts offers guys.

    Right now I’m not in a hurry for the bit’s - It will be slow time over the winter as and when I have the time.

    Until I can get some space to work around it I really won’t know what I will need.

    Part of me is rethinking the track bike that costs this much and has all of these expensive to replace parts.

    Going to have a long think about whether I would have just as much fun on a 5k bike that I don’t have to worry as much about binning!

    Until I have made a decision I won’t know what tank I will need - if I decide to put it back to stock then I will need to source a white one.

    I think what has thrown me is that I didn’t make a massively obvious mistake - I thought I knew the bike and the grip level available so to have it just let go like that leaves me thinking that crashing is a little more likely than I previously thought.

    My first crash I made an obvious error so I didn’t really question it.

    This one was more difficult to pin down a specific reason so it’s left me a bit ambivalent.

    1. I know I wasn’t 100% so that’s definitely a factor - but I have made some real crappy moves in the past and the bike has coped - feet and pegs scraping coming out of Gooseneck trying to stay on track - that kind of thing.
    2. The tyres - done 2 trackdays and then sat for a month - had a bit of bluing and a crust - I think this could have contributed - maybe they needed more time to heat up, scrub the hardened rubber off and soften up. They are Metzeler Trackday Slicks though so are meant to be less sensitive to heat cycles and quicker to warm up.
    3. An hour before going out I had taken the bike to 100% suspension to have the shock and forks setup. The shock was pretty good so he only tweaked it 1 click here and there but he softened the forks quite a bit. The plan was to do a session and then take it back when warm to see how it felt. The bike felt like the back end was squirming around more than usual coming up to Park corner so perhaps it was a bit too soft at the front?
    Maybe it was just a combination of all of these factors - if I had been riding better then I would have balanced the bike on the throttle through the corner and not put as much weight on the front. If the tyres had been properly hot and sticky maybe they would have hung on despite my lack of fine balance on the throttle. Maybe the forks are now too soft and the massive downhill forces into Mansfield were just that little too much and exacerbated the above factors??

    It’s the idea of not being 100% certain and the prospect of doing exactly the same again after fixing the bike that bothers me.
     
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  8. Hi mate. No worries. You’ve done me favours in the past so just £40 delivered for the bar.
    I hope this helps…

    Ian
     
  9. It's an accident blackspot there so don't be too hard on yourself, but it would be better if you could pin it down to something as you say. Also be easier to tell if someone was watching in the flesh.

    Just from the vid it looks possible that as you came on the throttle to exit, the front went light as it would, but instead of sticking it just went. Do you recall if it was at this point or were you still off throttle? I'm assuming you weren't trail braking all the way to the point you lost it? I don't think it's tyres as I've done 4 and half on mine and run at a decent ish pace with no issues. What hot pressures did you run? What lap did you crash on? Had you done a few sessions up to this point or was it the first session? Could be suspension. Problem with getting your suspension done sometimes is when they make too many changes at once. Do you know what they changed? I know they normally give you a sheet showing base then their changes.
     
    #189 JamieW, Aug 17, 2021
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  10. Pretty easy to loose the front there tbf.

    My thoughts. The bike sounded boggy to my ears on entry. I’m thinking too high of a gear (which if the case will cause the rear to push the front on).

    Other observations are, from the video (which can be deceiving), you look a bit ‘50 pencey) in your inputs - not the American hip hop artist. If it was me, I’d work on smoothing my direction changes out.

    could do with working on your Rev matching as well.

    As said, it’s always difficult to read from a video. Could be one of a few things or a even a multitude.


    Glad you’re okay mate. Hopefully this comes across as intended (helpful). I am just a dickhead from the inter web after all.

    All the best with fixing the bike up x
     
  11. Japanese 600. Better still, a two stroke 250 like a Honda RS but they're quite expensive.

    Have a chat with Andy at St Neots Motorcycles. He'll put you straight.

    Massive experience of national and international racing and definitely worth a visit.
     
  12. Try and put it out of your mind mate. Easy place to crash. Looks simple loss of bit of grip. Do the corner a thousand times more and may never happens again
     
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  13. Disagree. Stick with the 899: you like the bike and like riding it. Money had already been invested: get it fixed and get back out :upyeah:
     
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  14. Totally normal to be feeling blue after a shunt.

    Get back on the horse as they say
     
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  15. So close to an agreement but secretly hoping to bag Livefasts lightweight wheels.
    Does that make me a bad person?:dizzy:
     
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  16. To me it looks/sounds like you started to add throttle before the apex and were still adding lean then the back end let go as you asked to much of the rear tyre.

    As above, I've seen people do the same there, especially on early laps before tyres are fully gripping.

    GSXR750 rule.
     
  17. Let’s put it this way, you ain’t going to heaven and we’ll leave it there. :(
     
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  18. If he does it’s on the back of a vulture…
     
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  19. A small one.
     
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    Thought I'd add my bit on this as I trashed my 899 at Snetterton at the back end of May. Good to know that you wallked away pretty much unharmed. I agree with a couple of the other posters on here, that if you like the bike get back on it! I re-built my 899 and immediately went back to Snetterton to face my demons. I'm not sure why I crashed but think it was due to late braking and running out of front suspension at the end of the straight going into Brundle. However, on my return to Snetterton I noticed that my internal calibration had been reset with regards late braking and the post crash "blues" were blown away as I love riding the 899.
     
    #200 IanR, Aug 18, 2021
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