Hi Guys, Can i pick your brains, i have always anchored after a 1299 r Final Edition, but unsure of their value as they seem to hang around for a while when they do come up for sale. What are your thoughts about buying to add to a collection? TIA Any help would be appreciated Thanks
if you like it buy it mate, just look at auto trader and ebay see what they go for. But my money would be on the panigale R
Mine would be on a 1098R. That was a successful race bike. I dont think anyone can reasonably argue that the Panigale has been a successful race bike.
The 1299FE is a cracking bit of kit all right. I almost pulled the trigger on one myself but opted for the V4S instead. With the saved wonga (man maths here) I built the V4S how I wanted it. But I think we're on different page's when it comes to reasons? I'm a track day enthusiast and you're a collector. The 1299FE is definitely a handsome bike, but I don't think they're particularly exclusive. Good investment? Hmmm, not sure. But if you like them and you can afford it, nice bike to the collection
1199 Tricolore is the pick of the bunch IMO. Kicking myself for not buying a great example early last year.
The FE is a nice bike indeed, but with a lot of these special editions they're usually based on another model with some additional components fitted, that's the normal format for Ducati and these type of editions. Personally I don't see it as an investment in the short to medium term, possibly in the long term. However to get that return in 10-20+ years it will need to be insured, serviced/maintained which would probably outweigh any real potential profit IMO. As has already been mentioned though, the Panigale range in racing terms has failed to win any world championships which shouldn't bare any relevance given this is a road bike, but could affect values for certain types of customers.
"anchored"? Would make a great yacht anchor I reckon . In the short term I don't see any 1299 making much money. As the last big twin, they might be the next 1198. Dealers will try talking up prices in a year or 3 probably.
I'd say the last bad boy big twin from Ducati is the 1098R and it's derivatives. Hall of fame engine, trellis frame, dry clutch etc... Recently sold mine and I'm sure I'll live to regret it. Like I did with a 999R. Ah well....
I regret selling the 2 early CBX 1000's I had years ago. But hey ho, the GPZ 900 that came after was much faster. Don't think the Kwack is worth much today though.
Iirc the FE is a cheaper copy of the SL2 so all the engine (mostly?) and electronics but not quite the exotic materiels
CBX was a bedroom wall bike for me. A lad I knew had one when we were 18, jammy bastard. His Dad insured it through his haulage company. I see nice examples today at not too mental money....
I was 20 when I had my CBX's, with a Z1R between them. Don't remember Insurance being an issue back then. No idea what a minter goes for today, I'd like one with a Moto Martin frame though.
Insurance was still steep for youngsters back then. That's why the 350LC was such a hit. It could take on 750's with a much lower insurance bracket.
True, but point was the insurance hike up to the big stuff was massive. A well ridden 350LC would keep them honest…
I think a RD350 would do about 110mph... If I had posted that ^^^, the usual suspects would have chimed in with, "I didn't know Kenny Roberts was on here" etc. Well ridden is one thing, riding like a f**king nutter on a 1000, trumped that.
An RD 350 would only do 110 downhill with a tailwind and a light rider and only then with the points freshly adjusted, new plugs, clean pipes and jetted properly. Likewise today a good rider on a 790 KTM would run rings around an average 1299 on a twisty road. But show it a straight and that big Ducati is gone!
Even my old lammies would show the old brit trumps and bsa's a clean turn of heel. But then it would seize, or the carb would fall off or a broken reed would get sucked in or the piston would hole or the goddamned woodruff key would shear and take the goddamned crank with it. I never want to see another 2 stroke ever again as long as I live. The countless hours with a file port matching, gas flowing etc for what? To make a lammy hit 96mph for a microsecond. There was hardly anything lambretta left in the engine. All that money spent and for what? To run at 25:1 and be followed around by a cloud of blue smoke and a clutch that needed the grip of death. A good rider on a 790 duke wouldnt get near a good rider on a 1299. There aint no substitute for cc's. Coz they make life more relaxed. Theres less pressure. You'd have to rag the 790 to a certain extent, whilst the 1299 would be pottering along. All the previous is fine when you're young and energetic. I'm old and fucked up. The 790 can get to fuck, I cant be arsed racing along. Do your thing 790.
If the road doesn’t have 3 fig straights for more than a 1/4 mile or long 100mph corners the 790 with same standard rider will keep up no problem