1199 1199s > V4s

I'll follow this with interest

 

I went from a V4s (2018) to a Panigale R.
The twin is just better suited to me physically being narrower at the front of the seat. Also a Pani R v’s a V4s? The V4’s are like clitoris’ (you know the rest) whereas a Pani R is a homologation special.
Performance wise V4s wins - but only just. V4 very complex. V2 not as.
The older bike is also much prettier IMO. And it will depreciate less.
I was at my dealers this morning on mine. I can honestly say there was not a single bike in the showroom I would have swapped it for. The only exception would be an SL and that simply ain’t going to happen.

 

@DRR117 has been around the block with these I think. Might be able to provide some insight.

 

So the V2 is more suited for those shorter in stature...
Homologation for racing? The Panigale was hardly one of the most successful Ducatis ever.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder... I cant stand that shock on the side and they dumped it.
Im in the V4 camp... prettier more power better electronics package gorgeous sound track.... I wouldn't go for the S though the electronic suspension does nothing for me on a sports bike..

 

You’re a funny guy.
True the narrow seat makes it easier for us shorties. But, the narrowness of the twin makes (IMO) it feel more flickable. The V4s are undeniably brilliant but I would wager you are in a very small camp saying it’s prettier than the twin. The twins are hardly crap are they. And the R is a homologation bike as you well know, regardless of track success (bit like the v4R - apart from SR on BSB of course).
I also would wager that there are very few (a minuscule) number who could get close to the limits of either bike. I certainly can’t.

 

The side shock looks ace. The V4 looks like a honda. Ner.

 

I went from a 1098R (1198cc) to a V4S. The V4 is a very different bike which is not surprising given the 10 years of development that separates the two bikes. Not ridden the 1199 and never had the desire to. IMO, both the Panigale R and the V4S make no sense as road bikes. For me, the V4 is a better track bike than the 1098R. Andy

 

I had no idea you needed to rub and lick a V4 pre ride in order for it to really go to the limit. Thanks!

 

Does the V4 have the same initial throttle slack as the twin. That and having to short shift at the top end, are a couple of reasons I may go back to a BMW or Suzuki thou.

 

WAKE UP, MAN!!

 

I went from a 1098R to a V4S. Always felt the 1098R had all the Panigale twins covered. The V4S is indeed next level in terms of technology and performance.

The V4 Panigale is a fucking fast bike.

 

I’ve went from the 999, to the 1299S, to the 899, back to the 1299…. Then onto the V4 and now onto a 1199S in the past 4 years or so

all from a track perspective as I buy them to track.

the 1299 is an animal, and more refined than the 1199 which is quite lairy and a lot harder work than the V4.

the V4 is an incredible machine, I sold my simply because I was moving and needed to “downsize” and free up some cash, but the V4 is for me, a far superior machine. It’s the natural progression of Ducati’s flagship superbike, the electronics are sublime, the engine is rampant, the brakes on the new stylema caliper have incredible stopping power and very little fade. The ABS isn’t intrusive (although I have had it let the brake off once diving into a corner which was unsettling ) and you can slap the Winged fairings on the older model with ease. I love a wing

if money was no object, V4 all day long. I too would opt for the base model and upgrade the suspension (I went Mupo ) I love all the Ducati superbikes and would happily push any around a track. I love the V twin superbikes and my 1199s is a very well cared for ex forum members bike (in fact he bought it off a forum member aswell so it has some forum heritage.

in summary, both great bikes, all subjective as to what you like and what makes you feel good. Personally the V4 is a ‘better’ package but it’s more money. And fun can be had on any Ducati

and now for some gratuitous showboating shots…. Blame @JamieW for these as he tagged me

ducati 1299 (base model) now with @bradders



The Panigale V4 2018 (base model) now with @kartman



My new to me, Ducati 1199S (just got it off @kartman ) only done one evening at donny so haven’t got loads of pics yet

 

Can’t be true mate. These 1299’s are slow. Dog slow. Pauly said so

 

You seem to be disconnected from reality.

 

With the performance you describe, I won’t be disconnected for long

 

! Got to get your money's worth if your paying a personal photographer I suppose.

 

WTF are you are on about?

 

I'm sorry but the V4 not as pretty as the 1199. I think the 1199 is the best looking of the Panigale's sharp aggressive looks. Only V4 I'd buy would be RSV4.. and not the new model, most likely a 2019 model before they put wanky electronic suspension on.