I'm certain some would challenge that on the premise that the 1260 PP is 20 lbs lighter and produces more torque across the rev range and also more HP up until the very end north of 10,000 rpms. On that note, the HP difference above 10k is only 3.4 hp which does not compensate for its deficiencies below that in a real world scenario.
The 1260 is a lovely engine. Not sure why they went in the V4 direction as they are typically thirsty, heavier, more complex and make power higher in the revs. The other problem, in my mind anyway, is the size that the Multistrada has reached. Makes my BMW look compact. The cost and engine configuration has had me looking at the KTM1290 adv S last night. Just cannot get away with the looks though. It has been hit far too many times with the very fugly stick.
There’s an oddity in the weight specs. Compare dry weights the difference is 8kg, compare curb weights the difference is 10 kg. Which fluids does the V4 have more of than the 1260 ? Andy
Long term? I assume, as KTM continue with the V format ... Must be more to it. Boxer twins...Moto Guzzi..
There is an article somewhere that explains why Ducati developed the V4 to replace the L twin in the hyper sports market. Might still be available on the Ducati web site. Why they made the decision to move to a V4 Streetfighter and a V4 Multistrada ? Might be a video of an interview somewhere. Andy
The V4 in the Multi was a great idea when we all though it would produce 40 more HP than the 1260's Testastretta V2. IMHO, the Granturismo V4 engine is a let-down from a power standpoint.
The V4 has more power than the 1260 mine with the full system has around 164 at the wheel the 1260 140 at the rear . The V4 is fast especially as you put with a fast rider on , thats me . Rode with a mate who has the 1260 , he is fast but said the V4 just goes and goes . And to add you ride it like a Ducati likes to be ridden ie at higher revs the V4 flys no doubts Also have a look at this as well .
That's Hocus Pocus. See the Dyno charts above. Moreover, that article is totally subjective and most likely self-serving as to not alienate themselves from Ducati. Magazines seldom compare "objectively" new models with previous ones with the likes of dyno charts, track shootouts and drag races.
That cycleworld dyno result doesn't seem correct or was a bad day, both MCN and Bennets put it closer to mid 150's and has a much smaller torque difference.
Depends on what’s hicus piccus you follow , look on the net , I will post the one with the power read out with the full system on . Yours seem a bit convenient for me as others have shown a lot different , maybe it’s the 1260 owners not sucking it up like real men lol
Hey Dude, Both Dyno charts were posted by Cycle World and they're numbers are clear as daylight. If you don't think that they're methodology is correct, then that's your problem. Subjective "Butt Dyno's" only belong where they came out of.
You can't post one chart in isolation. Cycle World tested both bikes with the same dyno. I'm pretty sure they would not have posted numbers that were way off reality.
Having owned and ridden both, the V4 engine is better (and probably faster than) the V2. I loved my v twins but you can’t get away from the fact the V4 is better. dynos are only a guide as to how an engine performs in the road.
And for the record, my knob is bigger, lighter, has more torque, and is much faster than anyone else's, who post anything meaningful in this post. SO THERE!...... Just ride whatever bike you own, enjoy it and simply don't worry or fuss about if the V4 is better than the 1260, or indeed the other way around. Who cares?
Anyone know how much weight the full system saves? I need to know, so I can tell the boys down the pub.
No I dont care either , but some facts are facts , information is information. Oh I have a massive knob as well
It's not like the two Cycle World tests were back to back, so despite being on the same dyno they are in isolation. Cycleworld is 10bhp adrift of both Bennets 157 and MCN's 155 which makes it the outlier for comparison. A quick google of 1260 dyno's suggest most are in the range 140-144 a far smaller difference. Logic suggests the average of known dyno's is the better measurement. Having had my own bike on 2 different dynos with a few weeks of each other with a difference < 3bhp, that result stands out. Maybe the US bikes are now restricted somehow.
Regardless of any dyno chart, no matter how accurate, they are all irrelevant. The fastest bike is the one ridden by whoever has the balls to leave the least margin for error. Another thing to consider is that even when riding at a fast pace you're most likely to be in the 5k to 8k range so you're really just working with 100 - 115 hp at any given time, rendering the last two pages of arguments also irrelevant.
