Hello. There's this unregistered one at Dunmow Motorcycles advertised with only 2 miles since pdi, but it's around £63k: https://dunmowmotorcycles.co.uk/product/2019-ducati-1299-superleggera/ . Also the Bike Specialists have one at a similar price. There are are a number of 1199 versions available, at up to £20k less! Sorry if I'm repeating what you already know. Good luck. Tom.
Apologies for the post- resurrection. I think I may have tracked down a UK bike that is unregistered, so I was just wondering how difficult it is to get one of these road registered? The bike currently doesn’t have a CoC- though I know the process to obtain one (assuming it’s still a case of give ducati £50)- but other than that is the DVLA process pretty robust? It looks straight forward enough but don’t want to fall down one of those DVLA holes wherein a thing that should be possible isn’t for unspecified DVLA reasons. There’s a few threads on here about imported bikes that have made me a bit angst-y about doing so, but am unsure if the process is easier for uk stuff. Also, am I safe to assume the VAT will have been paid on the bike? It’s a uk private seller, but I can’t seem to get hold of him to find out and am worried the auction will end without me knowing and I’ll land my brother with a bill for another 20% of the sale price. Thank you in advance, apologies as ever for my ocean going tedium.
Hello. If the bike was officially imported into the UK as new, but just not registered prior to purchase, then you should not need to worry about a Nova declaration and outstanding tax and duty, but you should ask for supporting documents. However, you should check if the pdi was done and where, also if the Ducati owners books are present and correct, together with the extras that were supplied with the bike. If the pdi has not been done, then you need an authorised dealer to carry this out, and also establish if there is any manufacturer's warranty available. To register a bike with DVLA you need to provide proof that the bike is what you say it is, and as you know this is normally done using the CoC supplied with the bike. If you don't have the CoC, then you could ask Ducati to provide a duplicate, but normally they need you to show that you are the owner of the bike by providing a copy of a registration document; hence a potential catch 22 situation. I have gone through this process a few times, with and without a CoC, and it can get very messy if DVLA are unhelpful, and the Pandemic won't help. A couple of times, I was lucky enough to have the help of a Ducati dealership and they were able to provide confirmation of the bike's provenance, and also carry-out any outstanding inspection and warranty work. I also managed to get a CoC from Ducati stamped "Duplicato", and acceptable to DVLA. Once you have everything you need, complete and submit the necessary forms with documentary evidence to DVLA, and double check the form entries. I suggest you keep copies of everything and use a recorded delivery option. One of the problems with their process is that the various stages that may be involved are dealt with by different people, and consequently responses are often not consistent. However, if you persevere, and complain if necessary, the process should eventually be completed, but it may test your resolve! Good luck. Tom.
This is such an excellent and fulsome response. Thank you Tom, I really appreciate you taking the time. I’ve asked the question about the PDI now, but I know all the road kit and books are with the bike. I doubt there’s any warranty remaining/ due as it’s a 2017 bike. I’m intrigued slash terrified to know how I demonstrate ownership/ a reg doc to ducati without the COC which will generate those things. What do you provide instead? A bill of sale? Thank you again Tom. You’ve been a huge help.
It goes without saying, that when buying privately 'Caveat emptor' is the guiding principle, and especially for expensive items like a Superleggera. If the pdi was done, the details should be recorded in the service book, which is included in the book pack. Also, if you can get a copy of the VIN from the bike, or the documents with the bike, a UK Ducati dealer will be able to provide the bike's details, including where it was sold new, if they are satisfied you have a genuine interest. The problem then becomes being sure that the bike being sold is the original, and it might be worth having an expert inspection carried out to confirm this, prior to paying out a substantial sum. This will also help with confirming that the bike is genuine. In one case, DVLA asked me to provide photographs of the bike's frame and engine numbers in-situ to accompany my registration application; not a simple task! It might be worth dropping Ducati customer services an email as well, to explain that you are considering buying the bike and ask if they can help in view of the circumstances, and see what they say. They may refer you to a local Ducati dealer, on the other hand they may suggest some options, including a duplicate CoC, they are in Italy but respond quite quickly and have access to all the Ducati records, the email address is: [email protected] . I definitely recommend getting the help of a friendly Ducat dealer with this transaction if possible, and if you do they can help with everything, including registration; although you may need to pay a fee. Good luck with this, and I hope it works out well. Tom.
The one in post #31 by Parky looks interesting, if it's not the one you've already seen. The description says: The bike is fitted with the Track Kit, which includes an Akrapovic titanium race exhaust system, a taller race screen, machined aluminium mirror blanking plates, a track-only carbon-fibre belly-pan, and front and rear paddock stands. The Road Pack is also supplied with the bike, which brings a shallower screen, numberplate holder, rear indicators, reflectors, rear-view mirrors, and a Ducati bike cover. Also included in the sale is the original owner’s book pack, PDI sheet, various paperwork, and two keys. So for this 3 mile example, the pdi is done and should be recorded in the service book, and since it can only be done by an authorised dealer they may be able to help with further information/history/registration for the bike? Hope this helps, Tom. PS. If this bike's in Norfolk, Seastar Superbikes may be able to help?
thank you tom. This is the bike I’m after. The problem is the auction ends at 8pm on a Sunday, and I’m guessing since the seller can afford a 60k bike he can also afford not to look at his computer on a Sunday, meaning I can’t ascertain the answers I want before it ends. Excellent spot on the PDI sheet tho, I had missed that somehow. I guess there’s assurance in that at least?
Hello again. I've had a look at the copies of paperwork provided again, it seems to be a UK bike (and they say it is!) and the pdi was done and signed off, but its not possible top see where "Daniel" the technician was employed. Additionally, the document covering the self checking procedure shows it was done by JHP, and it goes without saying that they are a highly reputable outfit who I have dealt with and am entirely satisfied with. I can't see where it was bought from, but if JHP were involved at the start, I'm sure they will have the appropriate records and would be able to help you get whats needed to register the bike. Just the minor chip to resolve, but that shouldn't be too difficult as long as the carbon underneath is OK, and in any event it can be fixed. It isn't my money, but looking in detail at what has been provided, the paperwork looks more reassuring, and registration should be doable if you get the bike. Good luck, Tom.
Tom! I honestly cannot thank you enough. Thank you so much. I’m so grateful. I’m going to try and win it now!
I suspect that’s the one he’s monitoring. I bought my 1199S tricolore off this site and am a habitual voyeur. Very difficult to get a good deal though, too many mugs with money in their pockets.
Exactly. Prices go crazy, and sales regularly fall through. I remain ever hopeful tho, optimistic idiot that I am.
I've just checked the auction site again and bidding is still active, although the last bid was automatic and a quite small increment. Currently, the price is more like that for an 1199 version, and therefore a good buy. I've no experience of this site but it appears that there are a number of people out there who could afford to buy a Superleggera, unfortunately not me. However, luckily, I'm happy with my Panigale R! Good luck, I hope you're successful, and get the bike registered if you are. Its been interesting. Tom.
