How much do MSV, Dorna, whoever make from tv, attendances, royalties? A 3rd rate pro footballer will earn twice at least what the bsb top rider will, and barely anyone else gets paid. Someone is making money and, unlike F1, MGP it seems it’s not filtering down… Discuss
I’m guessing that the BSB circuits don't get anything like the same gate money as a football game, the advertising and tv income will be significantly smaller as well and there are significantly more riders than players.
Suck it up. The general public in the uk are as thick as shit, so are happy to spend a large percentage of their income watching a middle aged Alice band wearing sausage jockey cry when they break a fingernail, rather than watch anyone riding or driving anything with an engine and risking life threatening danger.
Trouble is they get away with it as for every seat in BSB, there are probably 1000's queuing for it who would take it for free, even prepared to pay for it - so sadly cant see it changing anytime soon while the demand is there
Supply & demand. What are the viewing figures for BSB? I doubt most people in the UK have even heard of BSB, or any of the riders.
I’m trying to think of the best way of answering this so bare with me. Msv own many of the circuits and palmer owns bsb. Circuit hire is a huge cost. bsb doesn’t pull big crowds anymore. Motorsport doesn’t really full stop. If you are asking why bsb, I would answer it isn’t just bsb, it’s all motorsport really. The fact is, it’s a rich man’s sport and skill is second to money. It is extremely difficult to make any money from motorsport due to the sheer costs in competing in the first place and the fact of the matter is, the difference between winning and loosing is usually money. Talent is second to this by a fair margin. Everything is linked to budget including seat time / practice as well as the obvious! sponsorship. Nobody cares about it and the returns are crap so it’s nearly always a tax dodge or a friend of the family helping you out (because tax dodge). They’re getting diddly squat out of it commercially. F1 used to have enormous sponsor money in it for example (cigarettes), these days company’s often don’t want to be associated with it full stop. teams don’t generally pay riders or drivers because they can’t afford to, and if they could I would suggest it probably wouldn’t be the person in the seat that they have. When you have queues of people lining up who can ride or drive to a level willing to pay, it reverses the sport. By that I mean you’ve got riders and drivers on the whole who pay huge sums just to drive / ride. This is the same all the way up to formula 1. You cannot come from a council estate and get in to f1. Other sports you can with support but that support would not cost literally millions to hundreds of millions. It’s just you and a ball in soccer. Modern motorsport is a damn sight easier than it used to be meaning that even more so now than ever before, the fastest car will always beat the fastest driver. motorsport is not an accessible sport, it never really has been and it never will be. It’s also not about who’s the fastest driver, it’s a whole multitude of things. Does this water it down for me and many others.. yes. In the U.K. and Europe there’s not enough money commercially in the sport (which is tiny compared to soccer) (which is accessible) to make it viable like it is in America for example. And the market for riders and drivers is deep. I know numerous ‘unknown’ ex car racers who’d smash (and have done) multiple champions in the same kit. It’s just the way it is.
I really think it would help a lot if the tyre costs came down significantly. Tbh I’d be happy seeing them have a single compound chosen for the ambient temps of that weekend and limited to say 4 sets but you have to do a certain amount of running in practice, rather than the sheer number of tyres they have. Also, engines, birdy is the richest man for sure, but he had 20 odd engines lined up to go back to Ducati at the end of the season, they should be made to keep an engine and use it for the season, only allowing for replacement in event of crash damage. F1 only has 3 engines, BSB seems like it can use 10+ per rider at a cost of £30-40k an engine… While we are at it, £30k suter swingarms and motorapido etc running factory Ducati swingarms that are only allowed to be used for circa 1500km before they are junk. It’s that stuff that I think has just got so out of hand. I’m convinced, the bikes could have 200hp cap, and less revs etc, and more Supersport chassis so maybe cartridge kits in forks (like IDM before anyone flames me) and not be spending £15k on a set of forks.
Sad reality. Do you by any chance have attendance figures per year ? Would be interesting to see it for BSB events.
MSV have c30m revenues. 4-8m profit. Dividends couple of years ago was 9m And there are other companies. I’d imagine a lot of inter-company charging for track hire, which will keep costs up for other hirers too
I know they had 33k attended donnington the same year when wsbk got 12k people. Yep, 12k… think it was 2019. It’s annoyed me for a while that when you do go, every good corner has a fence covered in adverts so you can’t actually get close to the action in a lot of places.
I dont I’m afraid. i know that these days they’re happy to get 30-50k through the gates over a whole weekend whereas 15 years ago + it would be more like that per day. My dad has aerial photos of brands where you can’t see any green for all the spectators. And all the airfields totally stacked!
